cranny Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 if you get yourself a garrett turbo off a saab , it will be internally wastegated for 8 lbs. it depends on how you wanna go , external wastegate is "cooler"(not temp , lol) , plus it allows easier adjustment for future plans if needed. internal wastegates are cheaper since its part of the turbo , and last forever without any prolems. cheap to fix. keep this in mind as well when buying a manifold , no tap for wastegate needed if going internal , but most come with a plug anyways. Garrett T3 .42./.48 50 trim Turbo Tubular stainless Manifold TiAL 38mm 7psi Wastegate 3" Downpipe (recirc. wastegate, wideband ready) 3" exhaust w/ test pipe Spearco FMIC 2.5" Charge Piping w/ hose and T-bolt clamps SSQV BOV 550 injectors Hondata s200 new fuel pump CP 9.8:1 pistons -theres your list. your bang on with turbo imo. -stick with tubular manny , make sure you get one with wastegate hole if your going that route , or plug if not. -tial wastegates are bomb , if going external thats the way to go. -definitely want 3" exhaust from front to back -fmic is what you want , brand is up to you. -2.5" charge piping is what you want also , you can buy full kits off ebay to pipe the car. -whatever BOV you want , just make sure its a loud bastard cause 8 lbs dont give you much hiss , lol , and we LOVEEEE the hiss , yeah baby , haha -550cc injectors are a must , at least that. find out price differences and see if its much more to go bigger , if not go bigger , even 750cc if there not crazy money. (my bud got 750cc injectors in his LSVTEC running 8 lbs for an example) -if you go with hondata , your gonna need to convert your car to obd1. i dont know much about chrome or neptune or those others these fellows speak of , if obd1 conversion not needed , go that route. much easier and cheaper for you. -your definitely gonna need new fuel pump. go walpro for sure or reputable brand for sure. -the cp pistons your gonna buy are for a JDM B16A.(if that calculator and my calculator are correct , haha).make sure you get rings. -your also gonna need a boost and air/fuel ratio gauge(optional but i think you shoud have it). -if you can get one cheap , pick up an AEM fuel rail , there all over ebay. no fuel pressure regulator needed if getting it tuned with new injectors. i also see on that calculator , if you use a thinner head gasket you can bump compression slightly. by using what there calling 1 layer , you can be around 9.8 , which is even better , but as high as i would go. if i think of anything else ill post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Dude, go external. And Zeal autowerks is a good calculator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chubs Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 i dont know much about chrome You noob it's Crome. lol just yankin your crank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16bhonda Posted September 15, 2006 Author Share Posted September 15, 2006 i'm already at obd-1...looks like i'm all set then? just a correction with the other thread (about ITR getting banned), it was 6 penises...not 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanGSR Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 The thing is that cranny's setup he posted can be done for $1500 or less including a tune if you spend the time and find quality used parts via ebay, honda-tech. I searched around awhile back and found all the parts (in one day) to boost my teg for $1000 using a setup very close to cranny's. It wouldn't make crazy power but could put it around 230-250whp which isn't bad for a grand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Yeah. The setup I want is about 2500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16bhonda Posted September 18, 2006 Author Share Posted September 18, 2006 i pm'd ..ssr.. about some CP's for a JDM B16A. also, talked to a couple people about different turbos. if only wanting 7-8psi, should i still go with the t3? or t3/04e? where to get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 GT28RS from Full-Race. Great spool and results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranny Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 i should tell you so theres no miscommunication B16 , the pistons you want are stock JDM B16A. stock JDM B16A pistons will bring you to 9.6:1. aftermarket pistons tend to either lower or raise the compression ratio , not be stock again. so if you get 9.6:1 CP pistons for a JDM B16A , in your engine they will be like 9.0:1. you see what im saying. just making sure. if crower makes CP pistons that are stock values , thats what you want. JDM B16A pistons have a measurement of 1.180" from wrist pin to top of piston and are 10.4:1 CR. the ones that crower sells for B16A1,2,3 , are 1.181" wrist pin to top of piston measurement , and give a 10.5:1 CR. (just to let you know , your stock B16B pistons have a measurement of 1.210 inches , which is how they obtain the high CR). id say those are the ones you want. would actually bump you up a bit from 9.6 , to like 9.7 maybe. not much. so 10.5:1 CP pistons for B16A1,2,3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16bhonda Posted September 18, 2006 Author Share Posted September 18, 2006 GT28RS from Full-Race. Great spool and results. is that the disco potato? and also quite expensive? what do you think joe? i've seen you on the topic for a few minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 I am Mike and I say go with the GT28RS. It is 1100 bucks, and worth every penny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxscaxx Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 i believe he was talkin to me b/c i was looking at this thread. cant really vouche for the gt28, since i never had it. i liked my t3/to4e, but from what ive heard the gt28 is a good turbo. you can find a t3 a HELL of a lot cheaper than a gt28 if solLes's number is right on that turbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 T3 turbos are cheap. I am not a cheap person though. If I want the best, I'll pay it. Get the GT28 and stop being a pansy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16bhonda Posted September 18, 2006 Author Share Posted September 18, 2006 lol i know you're mike, solles. we've just never talked one-on-one so i still call you solles. and ..ssr.. is chris, right? i still call him ..ssr.. i'll have plenty of time to figure out a financial situation. hopefully, if i have enough money from the things i'm selling, i'll go for the gt28. i looked it up on full-race and it looks pretty promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxscaxx Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 lol didnt u have a t3 solLes? my suggestion is the t3, since i have experience with it. search for people who have a gt28, there experiences, look at their dyno sheets, and make a decision from that. just because some people say to get it shouldnt be the reason you do. make sure its to your liking, imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Guy Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 FR = quality and good customer service. figure out what your looking to get out of a turbo and talk to jeff at FR. very knowledgable little fuker he is and he likes helpin people. promotes his products a little too much though lol, but i guess id be the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AckNasty Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Boost it Zim! I'll help with the install. Cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16bhonda Posted September 18, 2006 Author Share Posted September 18, 2006 hell yea man...good to see you joined HF, pearson. post up some pics of the turbo gsr...these guys would like it a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH6TunerDaniel Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Turbo GSR, I wanna see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 i should tell you so theres no miscommunication B16 , the pistons you want are stock JDM B16A. stock JDM B16A pistons will bring you to 9.6:1. aftermarket pistons tend to either lower or raise the compression ratio , not be stock again. so if you get 9.6:1 CP pistons for a JDM B16A , in your engine they will be like 9.0:1. you see what im saying. just making sure. if crower makes CP pistons that are stock values , thats what you want. JDM B16A pistons have a measurement of 1.180" from wrist pin to top of piston and are 10.4:1 CR. the ones that crower sells for B16A1,2,3 , are 1.181" wrist pin to top of piston measurement , and give a 10.5:1 CR. (just to let you know , your stock B16B pistons have a measurement of 1.210 inches , which is how they obtain the high CR). id say those are the ones you want. would actually bump you up a bit from 9.6 , to like 9.7 maybe. not much. so 10.5:1 CP pistons for B16A1,2,3. This is wrong. B16B gets compression from a huge ass dome. The difference in CH is due to length of rods. You can't put B18 pistons in a B16. Crower doesn't make pistons. They sell CP Pistons. CP doesn't offer 9.6:1. JDM or USDM doesn't matter. B16A is B16A. He would need custom pistons and rods. For the price of custom pistons and rods, he could put in a B18 crank and use shelf pistons/rods and make much better power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16bhonda Posted September 18, 2006 Author Share Posted September 18, 2006 but is that just with aftermarket pistons? could i use the oem pistons for the jdm b16a like cranny was saying? according to the zeal tool, it would bump my compression down a bit just from using those pistons, which are the same bore as mine daniel, his car is clean as a whistle. it's sweeet. i love riding in that thing. i'll tell him to post up some pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attaus Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 owntruck3d Cranny -- why would you say that Crower makes pistons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16bhonda Posted September 18, 2006 Author Share Posted September 18, 2006 owntruck3d what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 No. You can't use JDM B16A pistons. I don't know why you'd want to build it using OEM pistons anyways. Ringlands will crack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16bhonda Posted September 18, 2006 Author Share Posted September 18, 2006 from what i've heard from a lot of people, 10.8 is too high to boost at 7-8psi, so i would need to lower it. i don't have the money to replace everything down to the crank, so i was looking for an easier way. suggestions for boost prep then? or do you think i'm ok as it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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