jay00Si Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Recently saw a civic with a J-series V6. anybody out there doin this type of project? Just curious as to the cost. I am thinking of scrappin the b series project n tryin the J swap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedDemon Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 not worth it. too much weight and not enough room. u think an h series would be a tight fit....add in 2 more cylinders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmgogo Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 someone on sol socitey has a j swapped sol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay00Si Posted February 14, 2010 Author Share Posted February 14, 2010 I hear ya there, that its a tight fit, but some of the fastest cars around have so much crap shoved in the engine bay. Anyway that V6 is a tight fight in the accord to begin with. I'm just thinking about it, I never said that I was gonna. I just wanted to see if it was as "fun" as the K was in my buddy's EM1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeryon Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Figures first post would be a bunch of negativity from someone who has never swapped anything before. I haven't done it, but that is exactly what I would like to do to my car. I have been doing my homework for EVAR. Just wish I had more funds. I have been searching for a transmission that I can afford for 6 months now. The rest of the parts are easy to find and relatively cheap, I just can't stomach 1200+ for an LSD 6 speed. I have calculated, if you do your own wiring conversion, that you could complete the swap in the 3k range. Includes trans, motor, axles, ecu, column(explain later), suspension, harness, hood and exhaust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedDemon Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Figures first post would be a bunch of negativity from someone who has never swapped anything before. just pointing out that its not gonna be a walk in the park. and i have done a swap. only 1, but i have still done one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeryon Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Anything easy ain't worth a damn. Besides, everyone and their brother has a B swap civic. I even have two in my little town of 1200 people. Never even seen a J swap in person, and everyone says don't bother it's too hard means I want to do it more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay00Si Posted February 17, 2010 Author Share Posted February 17, 2010 Finally, someone who enjoys a challenge; not some quitter. "its too hard" who says that anymore in the honda world. People are puttin in some crazy engine combos. So why not something different. OHIO people love a challenge and thanks to anybody with positive feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpearce1974 Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Finally, someone who enjoys a challenge; not some quitter. "its too hard" who says that anymore in the honda world. People are puttin in some crazy engine combos. So why not something different. OHIO people love a challenge and thanks to anybody with positive feedback. Thats because all their cars are filled with fist sized hole of rust, and if they screw it up, or stop midway they just fold it up and throw it away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamEj6 Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 id say go with it. its definately not a waste of time or money. my friend is gonna be doing one in a 92 integra sedan here soon. ive seen one in an EG hatch, but the guy did a crapty job IMO but still fast. and plus a v6 civic, what could be better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeryon Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Thats because all their cars are filled with fist sized hole of rust, and if they screw it up, or stop midway they just fold it up and throw it away! You don't know how true this is. Old 90's civics and wicked cheap and in plentiful supply in OH. I am thoroughly in love with this swap. I may never find the time or money to pull it off but it is certainly something I dream about: running 12's in the 1/4 and getting 30+mpg commuting on an entirely 'stock' arrangement that would easily cover 200k miles like every other Honda motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubbith Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 30 mpg on the j series? really? cuz i only get 18-20 with mine. it only gets close to 30mpg on nothing but highway driving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true-bluecb7 Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 30 mpg on the j series? really? cuz i only get 18-20 with mine. it only gets close to 30mpg on nothing but highway driving. Remember, the Civic is lighter than your CL. The K-powered Insight gets 40mpg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeryon Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Remember, the Civic is lighter than your CL. The K-powered Insight gets 40mpg. Bingo. A stock interior Civic with a J weighs (guessing) ~600-700 pounds less then a CL-S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubbith Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I still dont see it getting 30+mpg. I could very easily be wrong, just one of those things i would have to witness in person to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeryon Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Since you questioned it I did some research a-la Google: Original EPA sticker from a 03 3.2CL 6spd indicated 28mpg, even the modified new EPA mileage is 26mpg. Toss that into a car that weighs about 20% less and 30+ highway cruising mileage should be a piece of cake. The are a number of fuel economy blogs and forums where drivers of 3.2CLs note hitting 30mpg or higher in the default configuration without the weight loss the civic offers. Realistically: if I had a v6 in my sedan I doubt I would even get 20mpg. I would never be able to keep my foot out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedDemon Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Since you questioned it I did some research a-la Google: Original EPA sticker from a 03 3.2CL 6spd indicated 28mpg, even the modified new EPA mileage is 26mpg. Toss that into a car that weighs about 20% less and 30+ highway cruising mileage should be a piece of cake. The are a number of fuel economy blogs and forums where drivers of 3.2CLs note hitting 30mpg or higher in the default configuration without the weight loss the civic offers. Realistically: if I had a v6 in my sedan I doubt I would even get 20mpg. I would never be able to keep my foot out of it. i want one in the hatch. maybe then we could experience actual torque lawl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamEj6 Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 they really arent that expensive anyways. a guy on h-t bought a motor and 6 speed transmission with lsd out of a type-s for like $700. it seems like its cheaper than doing a k swap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeryon Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 If you do not mind the tiptronic, type s setups can be found all over the place. Problem is that, according to random people on the interweb, that less then 5% of all j series v6's had manual transmissions. Fewer still have lsd manuals. So far i have been unable to find a crash type s with a manual at any price. I have found usable automatics for under 1k, but the trans will run me anouther 900-1100 depending on how far i want to drive to get it. j would be cheap if you fab your own mounts, splice your own harness and respline your own hybrid axles. Those three things alone will run you a shade more then 1k if you have to store buy them. nothing unreasonable, but out of my range at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrIaN EG2 Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 i have a friend that has it in his white 98 integra.. he said it has plenty of balls but it was a SOB to swap.. plus he had to cut a hole in his hood for it to fit with the hood closed.. heres his teg :: id love to see it done in a civic but i wouldnt put it in my sol.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamEj6 Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 you dont have to cut a hole in the hood, just depends on the mounts and sh1t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeryon Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 on a civic, to retain all your power options and ground clearance you do. If you don't mind losing power steering and losing a little clearance you can make a stock hood clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrIaN EG2 Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 lift the hood by putting longer bolts and washers in the hood and itll work without cutting it.. im going to have to do that to mine because my VC rubs the bottom of my hood and made my VC look ugly >_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedDemon Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 .75" cowl hood brian? as for the J swap...get a small cowl hood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrIaN EG2 Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 yeah.. im raising my hood wednesday.. ill post some pics in the post pics of your car thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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