hiemsnox Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 ok everybody so i finally felt like i had my car working and running completely fine, and then on my way to work this morning i'm driving down the highway on my 30 miles to work going about 75 mph. and out of no where, i hear no pops or bangs... my RPM's dropped like a rock all the way down to zero... ive had trans problems with other cars in the past so i tried dropping my auto down to 3rd gear and still no RPM's and the engine did engine break though. so i pull off the road (luckly i had a perfect spot in traffic) and looked under the hood. ther was a lot of steam and very clearly smelled antifreeze....i'm not trying again but when i did try to restart the engine u can hear the starter but the engine wasnt turning over and atleast to me it sounded like the engine was trying to do something but it didnt sound right. so after paying $100 i was able to get my car towed to my friends house and put in his garage... im leaking antifreexe at a preety dencent rate too... my only geusses right now is timing belt and water pump....? so please if u can help me out with this one cause im a completely broke college student and thats my only car. so advice away!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallhamer88 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Sounds like the same problem i had with a saturn i once owned. Prolly the water pump since all the anti freeze i would change the timing belt too while your at it How many miles is on your car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubbith Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Water pump goin out, and the car just dyin with no warning signs just doesnt seem to go together to me.. Usually, you seem the temp jump through the roof when then water pump goes.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallhamer88 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Water pump goin out, and the car just dyin with no warning signs just doesnt seem to go together to me.. Usually, you seem the temp jump through the roof when then water pump goes.. ahh yah i forgot u should see appear unless your bulb is blew or what not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanGSR Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Step 1 - Inspect Timing Belt if you think it's broken. Step 2 - Trace the source of where your antifreeze is leaking from (this should tell you the problem) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastigir Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Blown headgasket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeryon Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 I agree. WP going out would not cause car to suddenly stop running. TB snapping would not cause antifreeze leak. Possible that something physical broke with the WP and it threw the belt, but that would not be likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelSolSweetie Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 +1 for headgasket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiemsnox Posted December 11, 2008 Author Share Posted December 11, 2008 well when i was driving the RPM's dropped dead but the engine was tenically running still... after i stopped i wasnt able to start it again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flheat Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 well when i was driving the RPM's dropped dead but the engine was tenically running still... after i stopped i wasnt able to start it again Sounds like exactly what happened to my first del sol at 180K, I was going 75 on the interstate, I think my temp light went on, there was a small pop and then engine ran louder and I could only go only 5MPH to get out of the way of traffic. After I stopped, I could not restart the car as well. +1 blown head gasket...you are now an even poorer college student, sorry to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiemsnox Posted December 11, 2008 Author Share Posted December 11, 2008 ok so i got a few things taken apart... it seems that it was the water pump that seized, then shredded the timing belt. so on cylider 1 and 2 there is damage to the valves. so i'm going to have to replace those... it seems that i might be able to get a new top end for about $50 new gasket kit for $40 and a new water pump for about $45. so in the next few days i will be taking out the top end, intake, and basically anything else i have a new questions, how far can the top be "milled", whats the stock compression of a d16z6, and is it possible to put a b16 head on a d16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrodh Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 B series heads are DOHC... Your's is a SOHC. So no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeryon Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Possible that something physical broke with the WP and it threw the belt, but that would not be likely. Hah! Sucks for you in so many ways. Have you checked your local craigslist? We have working heads for sale on my local site for under $200 with no rebuilding required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiemsnox Posted December 11, 2008 Author Share Posted December 11, 2008 ya i know i have sohc.. i was just wondering if there was anyway to mod them to work and i might be in contact with someone that has over stock on sohc heads and possibly get it for $50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelSolSweetie Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 umm.. it wont work the only way it'll work is if you motor swap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiemsnox Posted December 11, 2008 Author Share Posted December 11, 2008 ok so the person that is helping out with alot of this wants to know about milling the head... idk if i should do this is in a seperate thread or not but i would like to know stock compression how much i can mill the head (keeping under 10) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelSolSweetie Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 for a z6 the compression is either 9.1:1 or 9.6:1 i cant remember or i could be completly wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shak3yb0n3z Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 stock compression on a z6 is 9.14:1 if you mill the head .040in your compression will jump to 9.96:1 http://www.zealautowerks.com/dseries.html google.com can be your best friends sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelSolSweetie Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 okay so i missed the 4 on the end of the 9.1 my bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiemsnox Posted December 14, 2008 Author Share Posted December 14, 2008 i wont mill it then cause i might want to boost it later... so i finally got the head off and i cant really tell if any of the valves are bent. the pistons dont really show much scaring from hitting the valves.. any idea to truly tell if the valves are hurt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastigir Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 i wont mill it then cause i might want to boost it later... so i finally got the head off and i cant really tell if any of the valves are bent. the pistons dont really show much scaring from hitting the valves.. any idea to truly tell if the valves are hurt? Do a leakdown/compression test before removing the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiemsnox Posted December 14, 2008 Author Share Posted December 14, 2008 Do a leakdown/compression test before removing the head. WHOOPS!! i already got the head off... maybe i can try to get it back on but do u need the timing belt on to do a compression test? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastigir Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 WHOOPS!! i already got the head off... maybe i can try to get it back on but do u need the timing belt on to do a compression test? Not if you pull the cams. It's how I did mine. Poured a little oil in the cylinders, then cranked. It's pointless if you've already removed the head, the bolts probably wouldn't seal it down properly now anyway, and you'd waste a headgasket doing it. Drop it off at a shop and have it compression tested. My valves looked fine as well, but a compression test showed 25-50 psi across the board. Leakdown test confirmed cylinders 2,3, and 4 leaking to exhaust side, and cylinder 1 leaking to intake side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiemsnox Posted December 14, 2008 Author Share Posted December 14, 2008 Not if you pull the cams. It's how I did mine. Poured a little oil in the cylinders, then cranked. It's pointless if you've already removed the head, the bolts probably wouldn't seal it down properly now anyway, and you'd waste a headgasket doing it. Drop it off at a shop and have it compression tested. My valves looked fine as well, but a compression test showed 25-50 psi across the board. Leakdown test confirmed cylinders 2,3, and 4 leaking to exhaust side, and cylinder 1 leaking to intake side. was this on ur talon cause they are know for valves shooting holes in the pistons lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondahunter Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 was this on ur talon cause they are know for valves shooting holes in the pistons lol and the DSM hatin begins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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