EH6TunerDaniel Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Given you had a D16 and you wanted to keep it/build it, what would be your setup? Daily Driven: D16A6 PM7's A6 Rods/ARP Rod Bolts D16Z6 Head Port Job S2 IM Portmatched Holley 65mm TB SMS Header Supertech Valvesprings/Retainers (Or RM) New Geared Tranny 7lb Flywheel Exedy or Action Clutch AEM Cam gear Comp III Cam Tuned on Crome That setup has made 158whp and 139wtq on a dyno nearby with a no name egay header. Talk about killing GSR swapped civics lol. Just a statement, I know the GSR is a better motor, so don't even start. Which one did it use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99CiViCSi99 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I don't know, EH6. Cranny - Good call. Everyone on HT said they doubt it will even make 160. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted November 7, 2006 Author Share Posted November 7, 2006 Lol ^ That was me. I didn't know I was logged on his name. He must have used my pc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranny Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 hard to say i guess , lol , just throwing stuff out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TS John Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Even 160 would be good for that, being mod-free. Imagine that with an intake and nice header/exhaust. TB/aggressive IM too, with cam/cam gear and a ported head? Hell yes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranny Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 well , the deal with when i said 220 , if you read it again , was with a built head. i even mention a 50 shot of N2. but dont matter , would be a fun D no matter what power it ended up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted November 7, 2006 Author Share Posted November 7, 2006 Yeah. I saw a D16z6 with ported head, cam, new valvetrain, I/H/E and IM make 160.3whp and 121.2wtq. Awesome stuff too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted November 7, 2006 Author Share Posted November 7, 2006 Here's another cool build: D16z6 79mm bore Resleeved by JG ACL Bearings Micro Polished Crank CP 12:1 Pistons Scat Rods JG Ported Head Ti Retainers New Valve Springs 1mm oversized valves JG 85VT80 Cam Multiangle valvejob 440 CC injectors Crome/Hondata 226whp and 163wtq. Not bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TS John Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 That would be wicked fast. I'm gonna do cranny's build. You do that one. Then we will race. Good job posting intelligent threads, by the way. Edit: Cranny, what would you recommend for building the head to eke out 220 hp on your build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airjordan223 Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 Here's another cool build: D16z6 79mm bore Resleeved by JG ACL Bearings Micro Polished Crank CP 12:1 Pistons Scat Rods JG Ported Head Ti Retainers New Valve Springs 1mm oversized valves JG 85VT80 Cam Multiangle valvejob 440 CC injectors Crome/Hondata 226whp and 163wtq. Not bad. where are you getting those numbers? did someone do this build or are you making your own ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted November 8, 2006 Author Share Posted November 8, 2006 A mixture of both. TSJohn - I'll help you with the headwork, PM me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranny Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 Yeah. I saw a D16z6 with ported head, cam, new valvetrain, I/H/E and IM make 160.3whp and 121.2wtq. Awesome stuff too. Edit: Cranny, what would you recommend for building the head to eke out 220 hp on your build. what would i recommend , well solles is saying a stock Z6 with a built head made 160 somewheres he read. so the engine ive listed is gonna make sure as hell alot more than that , given the fact a Z6 dont even have 10:1 CR stock. id say(and i dont care what other sites say), that engine ive listed will be good for at least 200 whp once done with a built head(ported , polished , 3 angle valve job , cam , springs and retainers , aftermarket intake manny , nice header and intake. id say my engine would spank solles , but thats just me. although his is good for 12:1 , mine has the piston travel of a smallblock chev , hahaha(not really but more than stock). plus the engine im talking about here is comprised mostly of factory parts. thats a good done too though solles , 79mm bore wow , for those who dont know , D series are 75mm stock. PS , if you run a D17 crank in the 96-00 D16 block like i said , you must use a D17 oil pump so ive read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted November 8, 2006 Author Share Posted November 8, 2006 I knew about the oil pump. But isn't that 79mm block a beast? It ran 11.9 Daily Driven in a hatch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranny Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 that is , big block honda anyone? hahaha. couple more mills he could run B16A pistons in it , hahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TS John Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 Wow. What a great thread. I will definitely be adopting cranny's build when I actually get the chance to do some engine building. Hopefully that will be this summer or next winter. You two (SolLes and Cranny) will be my go-to guys, so neither of you die before then, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90IntegraC1 Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 more info, i wanna do a D build some day! sooo, about the 1 mm oversized valves...what would that accomlish? it just the shaft 1 mm wider in diameter or the actual part that touches the piston is 1 mm wider all around? please elaborate as to why a 1 mm oversized valve would aid in gaining hp.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranny Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 bigger valves = bigger openings for air and fuel to enter cylinders. like i said , not cheap work at all. when doing this you are literally changing the casting of the head. sooo, about the 1 mm oversized valves...what would that accomlish? it just the shaft 1 mm wider in diameter or the actual part that touches the piston is 1 mm wider all around? heres my ol engine diagram again , lol. you see where the valves are seated at the top of the cylinder(letter V) and the 2 chambers that lead to them (runners). well the holes they are seated in are a certain diameter. solles is talking about increasing the diameter of the hole that the valve seals in. increasing flow. and increasing the diameter of the runners that lead to the valves , this is porting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 A6 has 1mm smaller valves. D heads flow like crap due the the valve angle. The valve job as-is from Honda is very good for stock bore D's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranny Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 A6 has 1mm smaller valves than what? D heads can only be as good as they are cause of their size , plus thier hemi design , 4 VPC and spark plug dead center. not to mention the way the spark plug gets held , the tube that holds each plug takes up alot of room underthe valve cover on the exhaust side of the head. thus no VTEC on sohc exhaust sides. basically , theres not a lot of room to change anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TS John Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 A6 has 1mm smaller valves than what? D heads can only be as good as they are cause of their size , plus thier hemi design , 4 VPC and spark plug dead center. not to mention the way the spark plug gets held , the tube that holds each plug takes up alot of room underthe valve cover on the exhaust side of the head. thus no VTEC on sohc exhaust sides. basically , theres not a lot of room to change anything. So what you're saying is, "Yeah, my sol's got a hemi?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 Smaller than other D16 heads. F22 heads have the same design more or less of a D16 and flow close to 300CFM stock due to the valve angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranny Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 there ya go than fellows , the D series head thats "arguably" the best flowing head , has smaller valves than the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted November 11, 2006 Author Share Posted November 11, 2006 Well, Cranny honestly. Your setup or mine, in the same chassis, who would win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranny Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 fuk its hard to say man , you might have a bit more low end , but i got i bit more top end id say , be a good show , lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch92 Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 i'd have to say in a drag i would go with cranny's setup, in auto-x i would go with solles' setup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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