TS John Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 I'm going for Skunk2 IM. Don't I need something like AEM EMS to run ITBs? That's outta my league although I'd like them. But I'll stick with my PWJDM intake, S2 IM/TB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted November 15, 2006 Author Share Posted November 15, 2006 You wouldn't need AEM EMS. You could use Crome, Neptune, Hondata, etc. Cool. Start ordering. I'm saving my money right now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TS John Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 I'm getting clutch/flywheel/short-shifter next. Saving my money right now cuz I want to do it up right. Then comes wheels then exhaust and header (prolly at the same time since I'm getting both from SMSP). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranny Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 you can tune ITB's with crome. as well as many others , but just letting you know since you guys like crome. the parts needed to chip your obd1 ecu , will cost you a whopping 30 bucks at radio shack , haha. or component store , than all you need is someone with a rom burner , and crome 1.7 , and to know what hes doing. man i dont know why your dead set on SMSP , agreed , its awsome stuff , but for this build , way overdoing it on a horsepower here and there. for the money you save getting skunk2 , DCsports or OBX gear , is another step , if not 2 , closer to your build being done. than once your engine built and running good , you can upgrade while having stuff to sell off. thats my opinion anyways. you can get your exhaust pieces first if you like , dont matter really , you should make a list of everything your gonna need. and what you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TS John Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Yeah, I am pretty set on SMSP. They get rave reviews and have some impressive dynos. The exhaust isn't going to be much more expensive at all from them -- 500 bucks (about, maybe less, I don't know exactly what all I will need for a full system) versus 450 for Tanabe. The header is gonna be like 550 instead of 300. That's not too big a difference in price so I'll deal and know I bought the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 SMSP header is only 550 + 180 for JetHot coating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranny Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 well last time someone posted a price of an SMSP header , they said they were 750 bucks. thats a far cry from 550. 550 aint bad at all if they are as good as they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TS John Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I prolly posted the 750 price. including JetHot coating and shipping. Also B series ones are more expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranny Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 550 = acceptable but still moocho. 750 = rediculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TS John Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I don't really see the advantage of getting it coated, so I'll be saving 180 on that. You happen to know what parts I would need to piece together an exhaust system from them would you? I don't know the difference between all those pipes and I wouldn't want to order too much or too little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranny Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 im sure smsp headers are direct oem fitment. SSR would know for sure. in which case you either use high flow cat with bigger in and outlets , or factory cat which would be FTL , lol. and you need catback exhaust , be it bought or made. get a 4-2-1 or 4-1 whatever tickles your fancy. 4-2-1 prolly better for a D. that will connect to your cat. than theres the midpipe , which goes from the cat to the rear axle , than there the overaxle pipe , which goes over the axle , lol , and into the muffler , than theres a tailpipe. so those are the pieces your exhaust is comprised of , figure out what you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Just em-mail him and have him price you ex exhaust. I ordered his race exhaust for mine. 1.5' of piping followed by an 18" resonator with a turn down that exits mid-car. If you don't get it coated, it will rust. 4-1 makes better power on the D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TS John Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 SMSP headers aren't stainless? WTF? What are the actual advantages between 4-1 and 4-2-1. If one is low to mid and one is high range power I want low to mid, or at least mid to high. I will email him soon. Maybe I can get a discount for buying all of it at once, header and all.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranny Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 there not stainless? for 550 bucks? baahahahaha. now thats fukin hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 They're mild steel. You can get them in stainless. He doesn't make a 4-2-1 for D series, at least not one thats for sale. He will be borrowing my header to test on his A6. He thinks it will do better in low-high than his prototype 4-2-1. They are not direct OEM fitment. You won't get a discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranny Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 how much for stainless? a grand , lol. not worth it man no fukin way. if they were such gung ho make better headers than everyone else people like you say , they wouldnt even be making them out of mild steel at all like wtf. pay that much money for somin that will be rusted and crapty in like a month , fuk that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrorocketeer Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 save your money and spend it else where so....when did ss become so expensive, and hard to work with, that he feels the need to jack the price up 500 dollars?! You pay for his design, and testing, I understand that. But there isn't any difference between the two, besides the one is ss, and the one is mild steel. Some of these Honda dealers are half retarded I swear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 My header was 896. You can get his shelf header for less than that. Mine is big tube and have the B series flange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TS John Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Yeah, I really don't like the idea of paying extra for stainless steel. That should be a given. I will deffo have to email him and ask about final pricing for a stainless steel 4-1 D series with shipping. Once it gets over 600 then it's twice a DC sports stainless, and that's getting a little pricey... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 And almost twice as much power... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90IntegraC1 Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Team-Integra has an entire header article about choosing a header and why you choose a certain header.... SMSP was in the Full-Race section, they said it shouldn't even be used on the street cause it's a waste of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 lol. Nothing should be used on the street then, unless you street race for money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranny Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 answe me this SSR , would he just sell flanges? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TS John Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 I'd be willing to pay twice as much for twice the power. My problem is that he doesn't make them in stainless and they're already twice as much. So in stainless what would I be looking at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 I don't know. I don't sell SMSP, only SMSP sells SMSP so you'll just have to call him. No, he won't sell flanges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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