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help me decide my new ride....

Rick B.

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i cant decide on which one i want to operate more.


the first one is the faster of the two and tops out at like 185mph. but the second one can turn on a dime and packs quite a punch. it also has 1200 hp and runs on anything flammable





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Oh man my two favorite military vehicles. I dunno I like the abrams but the apache is just so appealing. I take both, I can't choice just one.


But i might just choice the abrams cause I had bad vision, so I could fly. So i have a better chance with the tank. In real life.

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the army has now made being a helicopter pilot and entry level position. You no longer need a college degree or letter of recommendation from a current pilot to become one. Now they send you to WOCS right out of basic training. Instant officer status.


Obviously Im re-enlisting and not for my old job. I want something new this time.



We have one of each in Big Spring.


is that a hint to move down there? lol

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nothing. my surgeon died 3 months later of a heart attack. =)

(Dr Glenn Kawesch, the same guy who did the surgery for Jessica Simpson)

it was $3500 otherwise. they do financing at like 100-200 bucks a month.

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it just goes on your credit score, which you can fight. There are lawyers you can hire for like 100 bucks a month that spam the credit companies with letters for each debt on your credit score. Once the credit companies miss one of the letters and dont reply within 30 days, they have to take that debt off of your credit score. its kinda cool.


anyways, back on topic.

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here are some specs for the tank and helicopter


M1 Abrams


Designer: Chrysler Defense


Designed: 1970s

Manufacturer: General Dynamics

Unit cost: US$4.35 million (M1A2)[1]

Produced: 1979–present


Variants: M1A1, M1A2, M1A2SEP



Weight: 67.6 short tons (61.4 tonnes)

Length: Gun forward: 32.04 ft (9.77 m)

Hull length: 26.02 ft (7.93 m)

Width: 12 ft (3.66 m)

Height: 8 ft (2.44 m)

Crew: 4 (commander, gunner, loader, driver)

Armor: Chobham, RHA


armament: 105 mm M68 rifled cannon (M1)

120 mm M256 smoothbore cannon (M1A1, M1A2, M1A2SEP)



armament : 1 x .50-caliber (12.7 mm) M2HB heavy machine gun

2 x M240 7.62 mm machine guns (1 pintle-mounted, 1 coaxial)


Engine: AGT-1500C multi-fuel turbine engine

1500 hp (1119 kW)

Power/weight: 24.5 hp/tonne

Transmission: Allison DDA X-1100-3B

Suspension: Torsion bar

Ground clearance: 0.48 m (M1, M1A1)

0.43 m (M1A2)


range: 465.29 km (289 mi)

With NBC system: 449.19 km (279 mi)


Speed Road: 67.72 km/h (42 mph)

Off-road: 48.3 km/h (30 mph)



AH64 Apache Helicopter



Crew: 2: pilot, CPG (co-pilot/gunner)

Length: 58.17 ft (17.73 m) (with both rotors turning)

Rotor diameter: 48 ft 0 in (14.63 m)

Height: 12.7 ft (3.87 m)

Disc area: 1,809.5 ft² (168.11 m²)

Empty weight: 11,387 lb (5,165 kg)

Loaded weight: 18,000 lb (8,000 kg)

Max takeoff weight: 21,000 lb (9,500 kg)

Powerplant: 2× General Electric T700-GE-701 and later upgraded to T700-GE-701C (1990-today) turboshafts, -701: 1,690 shp, -701C: 1,890 shp (-701: 1,260 kW, -701C: 1,490 kW) each

Fuselage length: 49 ft 5 in (15.06 m)

Rotor systems: 4 blade main rotor, 4 blade tail rotor in non-orthogonal alignment


* Never exceed speed: 197 knots (227 mph, 365 km/h)

* Maximum speed: 158 knots (182 mph, 293 km/h)

* Cruise speed: 143 knots (165 mph, 265 km/h)

* Combat radius: 260 nm (300 mi, 480 km)

* Ferry range: 1,024 nm (1,180 mi, 1,900 km)

* Service ceiling 21,000 ft (6,400 m)

* Rate of climb: 2,500 ft/min (12.7 m/s)

* Disc loading: 9.80 lb/ft² (47.90 kg/m²)

* Power/mass: 0.18 hp/lb (310 W/kg)




* Guns: 1× M230 30 mm (1.18 in) cannon, 1,200 rounds

* Rockets: Hydra 70 FFAR rockets

* Missiles: combination of AGM-114 Hellfire, AIM-92 Stinger, AIM-9 Sidewinder

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