B16A3 Del Sol Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Alright Right now i have a 1994 Pontiac Sunbird (driving to save money) was thinking about doing a swap b/c it has a 2.0L SOHC 135 crank HP... Slow as Hell... i was gonna swap a Cobalt SS motor in it or put a stock turbo that the sunbird came with... and just now a few days ago i blew a head gasket and found out that the head is cracked but i have one spare Sunbird with no cracked head I just need to buy a gasket and turbo and do the Swap what Does everybody think or should i buy the Cobalt SS motor... oh and the turbo will put me up to a 0-60 time of 7.2 and the Cobalt SS motor has 216HP???? tell me what you think... (Richie is telling me to just get the Turbo and not to mess with the SS motor) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanGSR Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 0-60 in 7.2 with a turbo motor is sad. I wouldn't even bother doing it if that's all you are going to get. Cobalt SS swap would probably be pretty expensive since all the motor/tranny etc are still really new. I'd seriously consider trading for anything with more potential. Edit: This should be in "Engine Tuning, Upgrades and Swaps" section or "General Discussion" since this has nothing to do with a del sol. Mod's please move this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B16A3 Del Sol Posted February 10, 2006 Author Share Posted February 10, 2006 0-60 in 7.2 with a turbo motor is sad. I wouldn't even bother doing it if that's all you are going to get. Cobalt SS swap would probably be pretty expensive since all the motor/tranny etc are still really new. I'd seriously consider trading for anything with more potential. Edit: This should be in "Engine Tuning, Upgrades and Swaps" section or "General Discussion" since this has nothing to do with a del sol. Mod's please move this. Actually it is really good since the 0-60 on the car with no turbo is 9 seconds... but 55-80mph on the stock engine with no boost is pretty decient... I've got plenty of Civics with my old one.... and the turbo that im getting os only $300 so I'm really considering that but still the cobalt is got a hell of alot more power... but i still want to see everyones opinion on this topic to see what is better... thanks B16Vtec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B16A3 Del Sol Posted February 10, 2006 Author Share Posted February 10, 2006 oh yeah i forgot... the turbo that I have found is the stock turbo that goes on the Sunbird Turbo... i think it only has like 7psi... not much boost but its good enough to make the car a sleeper... but the 0-60 at 7.2 is with just the turbo... so its like a Sunbird turbo stock... then i might be able to make it a little faster by buying something but it wont have near as much potential as a B series or anything of that stature... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanGSR Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 You can get the turbo for $300, but how much for everything else you'll need like oil lines, manifold, gaskets, etc. Oh, and you'll probably need a new ecu from a turbo sunbird and probably some sensors off that model. I don't know much about that car, but I know that the ecu will run differently and probably with different sensor's to monitor the boost and a/f stuff. If you can do everything for less than a grand it might not be too bad. It would get you running close to a B series w/ bolt ons. Oh, and don't forget piping and factory intercooler (if it has one). There's just a lot of little parts you'll have to make sure you remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 0-60mph in a turbo car shouldn't be over 6, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caspers_Civic Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Get both and put the turbo on the SS. You can use almost any turbo on any car as long as you can get a good machine shop to do the intake. Or at least thats what i've been told Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B16A3 Del Sol Posted February 10, 2006 Author Share Posted February 10, 2006 Get both and put the turbo on the SS. You can use almost any turbo on any car as long as you can get a good machine shop to do the intake. Or at least thats what i've been told No the Sunbird turbo wont work on the SS motor... 1. because the SS is supercharged and that would be dumb to put a turbo on it & 2. the turbo is only made for the 2.0L SOHC sunbird motor... Thanks for the input anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanGSR Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 That's stupid why would you turbo a supercharged 4cyl. What a waste of money that would be. SolLesHonda- do you mean a 0-60 in a turbo car shouldn't be over 6 seconds? Cause most factory turbo'd cars have it in less than 6 not to mention stuff like you're building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B16A3 Del Sol Posted February 10, 2006 Author Share Posted February 10, 2006 That's stupid why would you turbo a supercharged 4cyl. What a waste of money that would be. SolLesHonda- do you mean a 0-60 in a turbo car shouldn't be over 6 seconds? Cause most factory turbo'd cars have it in less than 6 not to mention stuff like you're building. yeah like the "SKYLINE"< I just creamed my pants > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 That's stupid why would you turbo a supercharged 4cyl. What a waste of money that would be. SolLesHonda- do you mean a 0-60 in a turbo car shouldn't be over 6 seconds? Cause most factory turbo'd cars have it in less than 6 not to mention stuff like you're building. Very much edited .. just a typo .. Mine should be in the 4-5's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLontheDL Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 no picture no care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caspers_Civic Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 OK I didn't look into the SS motor so i didn't know that it was supercharged already. Thanks for the info though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiR_Richie Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 the ss motor is such a gay idea, and yoyd still be auto, get the car running save $$$$$$$ and buy a new car!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB98LX Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 No offense, but if you're driving it to save $$$, don't turn aroud and put $$$ into it!!! Save your money for your real car. I know it's hard not to tinker with everything you own (I do it too), but control yourself man! I had a 86 Chev Nova (really a Toyota) with 68 HP, and even though I could have swaped the eng., I knew it wasn't worth the work, or the $$$. IMO, you should too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxscaxx Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 No offense, but if you're driving it to save $$$, don't turn aroud and put $$$ into it!!! Save your money for your real car. I know it's hard not to tinker with everything you own (I do it too), but control yourself man! I had a 86 Chev Nova (really a Toyota) with 68 HP, and even though I could have swaped the eng., I knew it wasn't worth the work, or the $$$. IMO, you should too! +1. dont waste your money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90IntegraC1 Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 buy an evo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B16A3 Del Sol Posted February 14, 2006 Author Share Posted February 14, 2006 no im okay on the EVO there are just too many in tennessee... plus if i got an EVO i would want the one my friend has( EVO 9 MR) and i dont have the cash to buy that... but when i do buy a car its either going to be a Del Sol VTEC or 2000 Civic Hatch(EK) with a turbo GSR swap (friend has one like that) but im still leaning more to the Del Sol... thanks everyone for the information and the opinions !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 GM makes a supercharged motor called an ECHOTEC. Its like $5000 brand new, I hear thay are pritty quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxscaxx Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 no im okay on the EVO there are just too many in tennessee... plus if i got an EVO i would want the one my friend has( EVO 9 MR) and i dont have the cash to buy that... but when i do buy a car its either going to be a Del Sol VTEC or 2000 Civic Hatch(EK) with a turbo GSR swap (friend has one like that) but im still leaning more to the Del Sol... thanks everyone for the information and the opinions !!! go big or go home. lol just kidding. all good choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B16A3 Del Sol Posted February 16, 2006 Author Share Posted February 16, 2006 go big or go home.lol just kidding. all good choices. LMAO!!! thanks for the imput xxscaxx! i cant wait to actually get either the hatch or sol and start tweaking the motor... i want to make a V8 eater!!! screw american cars! Imports all the way...:-" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 See, it's dumb comments like that, that make the Domestic vs. Import War live on. Stop talking. And for Christ's sake, stop posting "LMAO!!" in every post. Acutally, better yet, stop posting that all together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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