sha0linzer0 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 hey guys. ive owned civics for years, but finally got one worth fixing up and am getting close to having the finances to do so. i have a 97 civic EX w/ magnaflow cat and unknown intake(bought car from a dealership). i just wanted a bit of advice on whether i should swap the engine or rebuild and turbocharge the stock engine. i want this to be a daily driver but with the capacity to do well at the track on the weekends and against the occasional muscle head. i plan on doing the suspension/wheels next to improve the handling before adding more power (advice in this are would be greatly appreciated as well). also the exhaust is a little louder than i would prefer. would it be possible or hard to add a silencer, and do silencers hurt hp? thank you very much for any input. ill put a pic up soon if someone wants. ps. almost forgot, when i bought the car it actually had a ram air intake that i took off because the flexible tubing was bent in a way that seemed to me would inhibit air flow. my car does seem quicker and seems to get better gas mileage since ive done this. what do you all think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Turbo that y8 you have in there. It's a great platform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanGSR Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Welcome to the forums. Build the D and turbo it. Post up some pics too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sha0linzer0 Posted February 10, 2006 Author Share Posted February 10, 2006 so new head, headers cams, pistons all that? and as far as turbo goes, i was thinking about building my own. bad idea? or should i just pick up a bolt on greddy and intercooler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sha0linzer0 Posted February 10, 2006 Author Share Posted February 10, 2006 http://www.sportcompactonly.com/product.aspx?p=1185&c=44&l=2 http://www.sportcompactonly.com/product.aspx?p=1183&c=43&l=2 http://www.sportcompactonly.com/product.aspx?p=2243&c=23&l=2 pretty sure this is what im going to get. now i just need to figure out what to do to prepare my little d16 for it. do you think i can install the turbo myself? which of these headers would you choose? http://www.sportcompactonly.com/product.as...101424&c=54&l=2 http://www.sportcompactonly.com/product.as...101425&c=54&l=2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xalexjx@yahoo.com Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 i would lower the compression a little bit...mr gasket makes stackable head gasket..some of those would lower it some...also try to stay wirh a prefab kit like greddy or something...also for ems stay away from e-mange,,,go hondata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanGSR Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 You don't use a header with a turbo setup. If you buy that header, you'll be wasting your money. You'll need a turbo manifold. Greddy kits are overpriced and underpowerd IMO. Look at the FMAX, Rev Hard, Drag kits. They will give you much more bang for your buck than the Greddy kit. Of course building your own turbo setup (like you mentioned at first) would be the cheapest way, but still just as good, to get your car turbo'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanGSR Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Oh, one other thing. If you build your motor, it will be able to handle a lot more power than the greddy kit can effeciently put out. If you build your motor, build your own turbo setup too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphries Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 this site turned into a D series ROCKS forum. i like SOHC but im eventually going h22 or k24 later on down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 That's because D series does rock. Greddy kit is cheap, but overpriced for the 180 whp you will be lucky to get out of it. More than likely with just bolting it on, running on its preset of 4.5 psi, you will get 140 whp. Horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sha0linzer0 Posted February 10, 2006 Author Share Posted February 10, 2006 i really appreciate all the good advice. ill post on here later tonight after ive done some research into your suggestions and taken some pics. man im getting excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 I'll build you an engine with a Full-Race kit that will make 350whp no problem. D16Y8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 How much you charging people for that ..SSR... Just wondering to compare as to what I spent. I didn't know Full Race had made manifolds for the D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sha0linzer0 Posted February 10, 2006 Author Share Posted February 10, 2006 yeah, how much am i looking at to build up the engine and what would that consist of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sha0linzer0 Posted February 10, 2006 Author Share Posted February 10, 2006 i just found this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Edelbrock-T...sspagenameZWD1V it seems that it includes everything i need. any comments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 I hate people who get stuff off ebay. It doesn't support the industry at all. I usually sell Full-Race kits (stage 1) for around $3,600. A built Y8 with F-R St1 kit will run about $9-10,000 depending on what all we do with the transmission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sha0linzer0 Posted February 12, 2006 Author Share Posted February 12, 2006 it will be just a bit before i can get that much money together. however one good thing is i have family in johnson city that i could stay with while you work on my car. how long do you think it would take and do you do suspension too? oh and about the ebay thing: i was just using it for the info. wasnt planning on buying from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 From the time I have all the parts, it will take about a week to build the engine, install everything, and tune it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetdzigns Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 im with everyone else turbo the y8 to make a nice easy build id upgrade to some ls rods some new toatal seal rings and some bearings and you should be good to go for some low boost action Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBirdSucks Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 im with everyone else turbo the y8 to make a nice easy build id upgrade to some ls rods some new toatal seal rings and some bearings and you should be good to go for some low boost action just a friendly word of advice...if you don't know what you're talking about, don't talk about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 +1 .. That was bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sha0linzer0 Posted February 13, 2006 Author Share Posted February 13, 2006 hey SSR, could i just build up the engine w/o turbo and how much would that cost? i could put the turbo on myself later when more money avail. i wouldnt mind at all making sure the engine is built bullet proof, and broken in before bolting the turbo on. if you get the chance i would appreciate a list of the parts needed in the engine build up. thanks a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 LS rods are good for all motor. Stock rods are fine for bolt-on kits. Total seal rings suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sha0linzer0 Posted February 14, 2006 Author Share Posted February 14, 2006 so is there anything i can do myself to start the engine upgrade before i have the money to do the full turbo? can it be done piece by piece, or does it need to be done all at once? if so what is the next thing i should get? a parts list would still be very helpful. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Needs to be done at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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