b16bhonda Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 this started out of nowhere two days ago...whenever the motor is running and i shift into reverse, there's that infamous grinding coming from the linkage. it doesn't do it at all when i've got my foot on the clutch shifting through the gears, but when i hit reverse, there's grinding. it grinds just going from neutral to reverse, but if i shift around into 1st or 2nd before putting it into reverse, it's fine. any suggestions? there's a 2-month old exedy stage 1 clutch/exedy flywheel in it. haven't had any problems whatsoever until now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sohcVTEC-E Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 You've got a bad reverse synchro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99CiViCSi99 Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 its just the shifter grinding against proably ur exhaust, or do u have your heat shield still on? cause i rectly had the grinding going into 5th, but changed my shifter and now no grinding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxscaxx Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 no he doesnt. its fine. a lot of hondas do that. just like you said, stick it into a gear before putting it into reverse and you wont get it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 It's normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranny Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 its not normal it shouldnt do it. if it was normal it would have done it all along and not recently started doing it. it could be worn throwbearing , clutch slave or master cyl.. sounds like your clutch isnt quite disengaging. SSR can vouch for this too , when you step on the clutch with car not moving like going for reverse , your main and countershafts stop spinning so your reverse can engage safely. if your shafts dont stop spinning when you step on the clutch(for whatever reason like slave cyl. for example) , it will grind. so id say your clutch isnt disengaging all the way properly. in which case its most likely what controls that aspect of it. You've got a bad reverse synchro. cant be cause there is no synchro for reverse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRG7 Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 its not normal it shouldnt do it. I haven't seen a Honda that didn't need the 1st to Reverse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16bhonda Posted July 11, 2006 Author Share Posted July 11, 2006 taking off in either 1st or 2nd gear, there is a very very slight scraping noise...you can hear it while going over a bump in the road while in gear. so i'm starting to think it's more of a clutch problem than a shifter. but this is practically a new clutch. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranny Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 sounds like a throwbearing. just have the car idle while your sitting still , and step and let go of the clutch a few times listening to the changes in sound of the tranny. come back and tell me everything you notice. sounds like you may just need a throwbearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16bhonda Posted July 11, 2006 Author Share Posted July 11, 2006 just sitting with the motor running...when clutch pedal is pressed and released, no noise. only when the car is moving. it almost sounds like the warning tab on the brake pads when they get low, but it's more pronounced than that...plus i just replaced the pads 2 weeks ago. but i was doing some heavy braking after i put on the pads, so could have i worn them down so quickly? i'm still thinking it's a clutch problem though. ever since we put the new clutch in, there's absolutely no free-play in the pedal...it's been stiff as a board with the engagement point about 3/4 of the way up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chubs Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Im so jealous if you have a real CTR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16bhonda Posted July 11, 2006 Author Share Posted July 11, 2006 ex w/ a full CTR swap...not a true type-r because it's not a hatch or RHD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 It's normal. Even if it was a hatch and you made it RHD it still wouldn't be an R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranny Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 its not fukin normal for a car to grind. he just said he put a clutch in it and it has no freeplay. boom theres your prolem right there. like i said its not disengaging fully. and you of all people should know this SSR , calling me stupid all the time, cmon man. you need at least 3/4 of an inch of freeplay and it should start to grab no more than halfway up. thats your prolem dude dont listen to these guys , friggen normal for a car to grind? gimme a break. the reason it works when you hit a forward gear first is cause they have synchros and wont grind , and once in in a forward gear with clutch in your shafts stop spinning . thats why your getting it into reverse that way without grinding , putting it in a forward gear is stopping them from spinning long enough to get it into reverse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRG7 Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 its not fukin normal for a car to grind. he just said he put a clutch in it and it has no freeplay. boom theres your prolem right there. like i said its not disengaging fully. and you of all people should know this SSR , calling me stupid all the time, cmon man. you need at least 3/4 of an inch of freeplay and it should start to grab no more than halfway up. thats your prolem dude dont listen to these guys , friggen normal for a car to grind? gimme a break. the reason it works when you hit a forward gear first is cause they have synchros and wont grind , and once in in a forward gear with clutch in your shafts stop spinning . thats why your getting it into reverse that way without grinding , putting it in a forward gear is stopping them from spinning long enough to get it into reverse. Grinding going into reverse is common on Hondas. Same goes for the occasional 3rd gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrorocketeer Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 haha that was a good one ssr......moron..... grinding gears is always normal, along with lots of valve chatter, backfiring, and shards of metal in your oil. eh, just let it go, its ok for your tranny. wait a second....doesn't ssr sell trannys? his advice on what to do with this problem would make me want to buy a tranny from him....yeah....right... get that freeplay adjusted dude! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Dude, he is saying it's normal for a Honda tranny to do that. Every Honda I have ever been in will grind from time to time in reverse. It doesn't mean your car is broken. I agree with the clutch part, but for Christ's sake, chill out. Don't be quick to judge, when I'm sure you have said some things without reading every word before. So I'm having to lay down the STFU card on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastigir Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Try this. In neutral let out the clutch. Then push in the clutch, count to 10, try going into reverse. If it doesn't grind then you're good. If it does you've got a clutch going out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16bhonda Posted July 12, 2006 Author Share Posted July 12, 2006 same thing...it's a new clutch though...disc, plate, bearings, flywheel are all new. master and slave cylinders are jdm stock...is there any other way to adjust the clutch engagement besides tuning the little clutch rod next to the gas pedal?...because imo that's a real pain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranny Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 thats it. and once you play with it and get it perfect it wont grind anymore. although its odd you would have that problem with a hydro clutch but it happens. what kind of clutch did you install? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Adjust all you want. It is normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99CiViCSi99 Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 ..SSR and Solles = 2. Cranny and Pyro = 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16bhonda Posted July 12, 2006 Author Share Posted July 12, 2006 exedy stage 1 + exedy flywheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99CiViCSi99 Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Fidanza flywheel > any other flywheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16bhonda Posted July 12, 2006 Author Share Posted July 12, 2006 if i'm not wrong, fidanza is 7.5 lbs...mine's about a half-pound or so heavier, but i wanted to keep it one name...it's a really nice setup. i used to have an ACT in my sohc tranny, and i definately like exedy more. seems to be a much more aggressive clutch in high rpms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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