d-block97 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 I have a '97 civic ex. jus wondering if i should A- buy a jdm d15b1, and turbo it. Or B- rebuild my stock d16y8(spun a rod bearing), and turbo that? Let me know what u guys think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-block97 Posted November 30, 2005 Author Share Posted November 30, 2005 one other question. i was thinkin i could run 8psi safe, on stock internals. WHat do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
91H22Accord Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 turbo ur d16 i dont think you would run 8psi safely since u goin rebuild it..might as well buy aftermarket internals or else just swap that thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-block97 Posted December 1, 2005 Author Share Posted December 1, 2005 turbo ur d16i dont think you would run 8psi safely since u goin rebuild it..might as well buy aftermarket internals or else just swap that thing So you think i should buy that JDM motor? its a d15b1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyevans Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 no build up the the engine u have... so it can take the turbo.... rods, pistons, springs, cam.... etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphries Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 build d16 and push 5 psi that will give you 155whp my friend turboed his auto civic ex with a turbonetics kit and got those results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-block97 Posted December 1, 2005 Author Share Posted December 1, 2005 i have all the stuff planned out if i did go that route. FOrged pistons, rods, crank, and titanium valves and springs. If i didn't get a forged crank, would it be pointless to get the rest? or could i run more psi thani could on the stock internals. the only reason i ask i because of financial reasons. it would be nice to take that extra 500 bucks and spend it on a decent set of 16's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmythewop89 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 ok d-block, not to start up old problems, but yea, you are insulting american cars, and sticking up for japanese cars. how can you live with yourslef. anyways, i would rather rebuild the damaged mototr. its a learning experience, and i would think it is dammn fun too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 First you can't say how much power he will have. Second, a forged crank is over $2,000 and none are made for the D series. PM me for a price on a built Y8 longblock. I have a spare and will build it for you. I carry CP Pistons, AEBS resleeving, Eagle, Rocket Motorsports, ARP, etc P.S. titanium valves are over $1,200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-block97 Posted December 1, 2005 Author Share Posted December 1, 2005 First you can't say how much power he will have. Second, a forged crank is over $2,000 and none are made for the D series. PM me for a price on a built Y8 longblock. I have a spare and will build it for you. I carry CP Pistons, AEBS resleeving, Eagle, Rocket Motorsports, ARP, etc P.S. titanium valves are over $1,200. Yea, didn't know about the crank. i have had american cars, yes i was insulting them, but thats a joke with one of my friends, b/c he has a gtp. I had a '93 mustang and loved it, but it ate gas like it was going out of style. like i said, i am new to the import world, and just had some questions. I didn't have a problem with a part not being made for my mustang, so i figured, honda civic, parts no problem. oh well. are all the d block bottom ends the same? can i use a block from an older car, or not? jus wonderin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
91H22Accord Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 when i said swapping it i meant wit a B or H series i(my cousin) has a 98 H22 for sale all motor needs is ECU and Axels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 All 92+ D16 blocks are the same dimensionally. 92-95 D16's have a better oil pump. Pistons are different in all D16 blocks (y7,y8, z6, y5) P.S. Stock Honda cranks can hold over 1,000whp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-block97 Posted December 1, 2005 Author Share Posted December 1, 2005 i dont think im gonna swap it. i talked to my guy at Street Scene Auto Works here in indiana. He had a SOHC del sol on stock internals runnin 8psi all day. Not tryin to tell u guys ur wrong or ne thing. but he was tellin me to get a non vtec del sol tranny, cause of the longer gear ratios. LIke i said, im new to this, so any help would be great, i just dont want to bother u guys a whole lot. I was wondering about how much horse per pound would i get if i ran 8psi. i know it determines on alot, but a rough estimate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 There is no rough estimate. Why do people always think you need longer gears to turbo? If 300whp all motor K's are running 5.0 final drives and the same gearing as an ITR, then why would a 200whp need long gears and a 3.8 final drive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
91H22Accord Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 i wouldn't run 8psi on a stock d16 i have a semi-built d16 and im only running 7psi..but i kno my crap is legit i don't have to worry about blowing anything my buddy ran 8psi on his Stock LS block and he fried his piston rings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 If your fully built, you can easily push 7 pounds. Are you not turning it up for daily driving purposes, are what ??? Stock D series will hold 7 psi, it will be fine as long as he doesn't dog the crap out of the car. To SSR, I was wondering the same thing. I hate the way the gears are set up on the DX and LS trannys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-block97 Posted December 1, 2005 Author Share Posted December 1, 2005 Thats cool, i was just going by what i heard, and figured id get a second opinion. So i could run 7psi easy, thats cool. are there any little quarks to the d series that would help out my times in general without spending a whole lot. like tuning i could do at home? on my mustang, i advanced the timing, and it ran a whole lot quicker, little hotter but definately quicker. just little stuff like that, that makes a difference. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SexyH22 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 this thread is stupid. if you blew up your motor and you have to rebuild it anyway, why not do it right? spend the extra $1g and have SSR build you a motor. especially if your planning to go turbo, n amount of power is too much. do it right or you will regret it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphries Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 i would push about 5 to get used to it then turn it up to whatever you like. get internals then turbo that motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-block97 Posted December 2, 2005 Author Share Posted December 2, 2005 this thread is stupid. if you blew up your motor and you have to rebuild it anyway, why not do it right? spend the extra $1g and have SSR build you a motor. especially if your planning to go turbo, n amount of power is too much. do it right or you will regret it. Whoa, man, just asking some questions. if you read earlier, i'm new to imports. How old, are you, and how much do yoo make an hour? B/c i'm 17, and making $8.75 an hour. I paid for everything on my mustang, and did it myself. Body work, Engine work. Mostly anything that went wrong, i either fixed, or asked some one to help me, not do it for me. So if your wondering why i want some smaller, cheaper secrets, there you go. what all is done to your car that makes you think you can talk like that? Im sure my guys will give u a run for your money. u think you can hang my buddy and i's project with a 383 stroker with 100 shot in an s-10, prolly not. What about a 400hp Rex( and thats at lower boost, it'll go for alot more), or if you want to go Honda to Honda, what about an integra gsr on gas, w/ about 300hp? Jus wondering bro. i dont mean to insult you or nething, or talk you down in any way, but damn man. just looked like from what you typed that you were calling me stupid for starting this thread. Later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanGSR Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 You really shouldn't just talk crap to people when you don't know. I won't say too much because I don't want to take the joy away from SexyH22, but he's got plenty enough to hold his own with anyone of those cars if he wanted to, so honda for honda, be careful who you talk crap to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-block97 Posted December 2, 2005 Author Share Posted December 2, 2005 You really shouldn't just talk crap to people when you don't know. I won't say too much because I don't want to take the joy away from SexyH22, but he's got plenty enough to hold his own with anyone of those cars if he wanted to, so honda for honda, be careful who you talk crap to. i'm realy not talkin crap, just sayin that what he typed looked like an insult to me. if wasn't, then let him tell me so. I know i dont have a fast car, and u dont see me talkin to people like that. all i had was a couple of questions. o-well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphries Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 he wasnt calling you stupid.. if you were a thread on this forum then he would have called you stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 I just turned 18, and I make 10.00 an hour, and I find a way to buy a lot of things. You could easily save up the 1000 bucks if that is what you are talking about. SSR will build you a motor, and build it right. It does make sense though, like sexy said, if it is broken, work a little bit, save some money, and rebuild it with aftermarket stuff, and do it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 It cost less than $1,000 for labor for me to build an engine. He can do it himself, but good clearances and tricks can't be known by everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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