compuvision02 Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 I am going to be getting my HX wheels widened soon(ish) and had a question on opinions. You think it is "rice" to have a bigger lip in the rear with a front wheel drive car? I was thinking about going a little wider in the rear, but I'd rather have the same width all the way around for handling reasons. I was thinking 14x7" with a 0.5" lip on the front wheels and a 1" lip on the rear wheels. I'd either get them powdercoated black, white, or blue with the polished lip. I'll probably do it with a bigger lip in the rear, but it is always nice to see how other people will view it, especially when you are spending money to get it custom done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphries Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 i dont think its rice.. i think its stupid and unnecessary. keep the lips equal.. i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrorocketeer Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 and what does this "lip" do for handling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compuvision02 Posted December 20, 2006 Author Share Posted December 20, 2006 The lip doesn't do anything for handling. I was talking about making the front wheels 6.5" and the rear 7" or something like that. I do think it is a bit stupid, since it is more of the look of a RWD car, but I'm not sure. I think it looks more aggressive, especially in pictures, having a wider lip in the rear. Volkswagen guys pull it off, so I think I could. I just need some opinions on what people think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphries Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 thats because people who dont own VWs know so little about them, they think that they actually are RWD so they just go with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chubs Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 How do you widen wheels ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compuvision02 Posted December 20, 2006 Author Share Posted December 20, 2006 Some shops to wheel widening, most only do steel wheels, but I've found a few places who do alloy. They cut and re-weld the section. The lip, I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycarsux Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 Make sure that they weld it right. Like they preheat it and postheat it so the HAZ isn't as bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compuvision02 Posted December 20, 2006 Author Share Posted December 20, 2006 Nah, I'd trust these places, they've obviously been doing it for a while and are qualified to do so. If they f*ck up, a lawsuit goes their way. Wheel widening isn't a new thing, it's just not really known in the import world and mainly with steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanGSR Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 I think it would look better with a deeper 1" lip on all 4's. Yes, I think it's ricey to have a wider lip on the rear on a front drive car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IL3GL'88 Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 I think it would look better with a deeper 1" lip on all 4's. Yes, I think it's ricey to have a wider lip on the rear on a front drive car. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 You're wasting your money and risking safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compuvision02 Posted December 21, 2006 Author Share Posted December 21, 2006 You're wasting your money and risking safety. Well, if you actually knew a bit about wheel widening, it is not a new thing to the automotive world. Domestic people have been doing it for a long time, as well as Volkswagen people. If it was that unsafe, why would they still be allowed to do it? Safety people would be all over them for this. I'm not worried, because if something goes wrong, they are going to have a nice lawsuit in their face via me. Why am I wasting my money? Please ellaborate? Me trying to be different and not go with something that everyone has or has done? Because I see no point in buying cheap ass wheels when I can have a nice set of custom wheels for a couple hundred and then buy a set of Mugen, Volk, or other high end wheels down the line? There is no such thing as wasting money, just different views for people. Just like doing a motor swap to a Honda, why spend $4,000 on a GS-R motor and swap it into a $4,000 EH2 and $4,000 in performance upgrades when I couldgo with another stock LS1 Trans Am and walked all over it with a 4 car head start for less then $10,000? Please, ellaborate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B16A3DelSolVTEC Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Well, if you actually knew a bit about wheel widening, it is not a new thing to the automotive world. Domestic people have been doing it for a long time, as well as Volkswagen people. If it was that unsafe, why would they still be allowed to do it? Safety people would be all over them for this. I'm not worried, because if something goes wrong, they are going to have a nice lawsuit in their face via me. Why am I wasting my money? Please ellaborate? Me trying to be different and not go with something that everyone has or has done? Because I see no point in buying cheap ass wheels when I can have a nice set of custom wheels for a couple hundred and then buy a set of Mugen, Volk, or other high end wheels down the line? There is no such thing as wasting money, just different views for people. Just like doing a motor swap to a Honda, why spend $4,000 on a GS-R motor and swap it into a $4,000 EH2 and $4,000 in performance upgrades when I couldgo with another stock LS1 Trans Am and walked all over it with a 4 car head start for less then $10,000? Please, ellaborate. I think there is nothing else to be said... except make the lip equal all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kegger Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Yeah I'd go equal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRG7 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I'm not sure why the first word of this thread title is "Opinions". If that's what you want to do, then go for it. I'm not worried, because if something goes wrong, they are going to have a nice lawsuit in their face via me. Don't rely much on this thinking. If something goes wrong, you may no longer be alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 If you knew the process of making OEM Honda wheels along with the different grades of materials, you wouldn't widen them. They're 14" wheels anyways. You can get some "cheap" aftermarket wheels and be wider than you could with widened HX wheels, and have better tire choices. "Safety people" don't inspect aftermarket stuff like widened wheels. They're sold for off-road use. Hence you can't sue if something happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compuvision02 Posted December 22, 2006 Author Share Posted December 22, 2006 The opinions were not for whether or not I should do it or not, more along the lines of whether I should do a wider lip in the rear or not. I'm sorry for spazzing a little, but I got to admit, I am a bit tired of hearing "...SSR... is always right" on this forum. Because I admit, you know your stuff, but at the same time it's not always 100% accurate or it may be just an opinion of yours toward something. /done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRG7 Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 The opinions were not for whether or not I should do it or not, more along the lines of whether I should do a wider lip in the rear or not. I'm sorry for spazzing a little, but I got to admit, I am a bit tired of hearing "...SSR... is always right" on this forum. Because I admit, you know your stuff, but at the same time it's not always 100% accurate or it may be just an opinion of yours toward something. /done He's not always right. There is not one person on this forum that is always right. You just can't really ask something like this and not expect to get the responses that were given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nancy Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 im not too big on a deep lip on a fwd car but ive seen an ej hatch with work meister s2's and it looked pretty nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrorocketeer Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 If you knew the process of making OEM Honda wheels along with the different grades of materials, you wouldn't widen them. "Safety people" don't inspect aftermarket stuff like widened wheels. They're sold for off-road use. Hence you can't sue if something happens. Dude, its steel, get a certified welder to run a bead around em, and call it a day. and NO they do it for on road use too. Edit: Two seconds worth of searching on GOOGLE.... http://www.stocktonwheel.com/wheel_widening.htm http://internetalternatives.com/wshoppe/wwiden.htm http://www.weldcraftwheels.com/Wide.htm Might just wanna check those sites out SSR, douchebag. He just thinks he knows everything thats all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B16A3DelSolVTEC Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 Dude, its steel, get a certified welder to run a bead around em, and call it a day. and NO they do it for on road use too. Edit: Two seconds worth of searching on GOOGLE.... http://www.stocktonwheel.com/wheel_widening.htm http://internetalternatives.com/wshoppe/wwiden.htm http://www.weldcraftwheels.com/Wide.htm Might just wanna check those sites out SSR, douchebag. He just thinks he knows everything thats all. +1... thats some cool crapt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compuvision02 Posted December 22, 2006 Author Share Posted December 22, 2006 Yeah, Stockton is the place all the Volkswagen people go to, but they do not do alloy wheels. I find a couple place in Pennsylvania, so I won't have to ship them out either. I think the big lip is the RWD V8 guy in me talking, always wanted them for my Trans Am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compuvision02 Posted December 22, 2006 Author Share Posted December 22, 2006 And to be honest, I expected all of the comments, except ...SSR...'s. To be honest, whether it is for "off-road use only," which it isn't, they'd still get crap about things breaking for safety. Do you think if it was that unsafe they would still be in business or this "process" would still be used? If enough people have accidents because of it, it would have been shut down long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrorocketeer Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 Yeah, just disregard half the stuff that SSR says, cause he is so full-o-crap. Its sad that some of these clowns on here praise him and feed his ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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