SolLesHonda Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 This is what I think I am going to do. Maybe change it up and vary different brands, but I like this idea. B20B block Wiseco 12.5:1 pistons (unsure of how high of a compression, I think these will do) New rods .. don't know which kind yet, but I have my eye on Probe I beams New wrist pins B16 head Crower titanium valvetrain Crower cams Crower oversized in/ex valves ITR header 3" exhaust Hondata s200 system ITR intake manifold 310 Injectors AEM fuel rail B16 transmission with LSD Exedy Stage II or III clutch kit Endyn Breather kit AEM CAI Oil Cooler/filter relocation There is probably a little more, I may have forgot. Lemme know what you think. This should net me in the low 13's if I follow this set-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanGSR Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 How much hp do you think that would put out? I'd say more like a high 13 IMO, but I may be wrong. Also isn't a 3" exhaust a little big for a n/a setup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 B20B block CP Pistons 11.5:1 Rocket Motorsports rods or Crower ML rods pistons come with wrist pins B16 head Rocket Motorsports M22X cams/valvetrain stock valves, Rocket Motorsports headwork (JV, bowl port) SMSP BVTEC header no exhaust Hondata s200 system AEBS IM 310 Injectors stock fuel rail B16 transmission, Quaife LSD, ATS 4.9 FD Action 1MD clutch Fidanza flywheel J's knockoff intake Let me build a LS/VTEC for you and it would be faster. There is a ton of stuff not needed, not good, and missing from your list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphries Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 im sure if you build it for him he wont be learning anything at all about building an engine.. thats probably what he wants just to learn.. its not like he needs it.. he has a reliable engine in his sol already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxscaxx Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 im sure if you build it for him he wont be learning anything at all about building an engine.. thats probably what he wants just to learn.. its not like he needs it.. he has a reliable engine in his sol already. yeah but ..SSR.. could be a great help to his build. even if he doesnt get him to build it, ..SSR.. does this for a living. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 He can learn how to assemble an engine, but not build one. It takes a lot of engines to learn what works and what doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
all4bspinnin Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 B20B blockCP Pistons 11.5:1 Rocket Motorsports rods or Crower ML rods pistons come with wrist pins B16 head Rocket Motorsports M22X cams/valvetrain stock valves, Rocket Motorsports headwork (JV, bowl port) SMSP BVTEC header no exhaust Hondata s200 system AEBS IM 310 Injectors stock fuel rail B16 transmission, Quaife LSD, ATS 4.9 FD Action 1MD clutch Fidanza flywheel J's knockoff intake Let me build a LS/VTEC for you and it would be faster. There is a ton of stuff not needed, not good, and missing from your list. ^^thats acutally not a bad idea if he can give you a decent price. that motor should rip but i recommend an exhaust and a high flow cat. honda's sound like crap with just a header. the cat and exhaust will quiet it down to a reasonable noise level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted December 18, 2005 Author Share Posted December 18, 2005 Right, the reason I came up with that, is because a buddy of mine has similar parts in his ls/vtec sol. It flies, and sounds great. I didn't know what CR the pistons should be, but I figured 12.5:1 should cut it. They have some insane ones like 14:1 .. ..SSR.. let me know, I am just trying to have a fun little project for a while, that I can add on to, and have some good power. I know B20's are good for some 250whp NA, and they can run in the low 13's and maybe even high 12's with good driver and slicks, and of course, a good tune. (plus the right amount of $$$) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 11.5:1 is perfect for pump gas. I'd actually stick with OEM pistons. Forged pistons = slap, and need to be re-ringed more often. 250whp builds have serious money in them. This setup will probably do 220-230whp. If I built it, I could get upper 230's-mid 240's out of it. With teh right gearing and slicks, you could get close to 11's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted December 18, 2005 Author Share Posted December 18, 2005 So, stock pistons, with new rods and cams ? Ok, ..SSR.. now that you have changed the set up, write it up and lemme see what you think I should do, for a good 200-230 whp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 Paypal me $10. Chris@wd-r.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted December 19, 2005 Author Share Posted December 19, 2005 You are pushing it. Sorry man, I know you have good amounts of knowledge, but I am not going to pay you for it. I can easily find out from BBS or through my local tuners. Thanks though, feel free to post it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 I know more than BBS (no offense). I know more than your "local tuners." Good luck getting good clearances out of anyone. If you're not willing to pay $10 for some really good advice, you must not be too serious about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted December 19, 2005 Author Share Posted December 19, 2005 No, it is just that you had no problem posting it earlier, and now all of a sudden you want money ? I thought it was funny when you told the noob, but why must you have ten dollars to tell me something that you know so well ? I think that is kind of grimey man. I am very serious about it, in fact I have already confirmed my order for a CRV block from hmotorsonline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 I posted a general setup. Nothing specific. A parts list means crap. It can either be good, bad, or great. Specifics is where the power comes from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted December 19, 2005 Author Share Posted December 19, 2005 Ok, well when it gets to that man, I will let you know, Right now I am just looking at which parts to order. Can you help me with that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 I already gave you a list. Your SOL if your tuner messes up or when it's time for a rebuild. .5mm is the most you can over bore a B20 block. So you'll have to resleeve to rebuild. Add $975 for resleeve, $180 for bore/hone, $495 for pistons, $85 for headgasket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted December 19, 2005 Author Share Posted December 19, 2005 975 for resleeve ? And you said don't get new pistons. You are changing what you said. Doesn't BBS have stock sleeves ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 If you want any kind of power, you have to get new pistons. Unless you know someway to make power on a 9:1 bottom end all motor. He does have stock sleeves, but he is not more than .5mm over bored. When he rebuilds, he will need to bore again, which will require him to resleeve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpakc1 Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Paypal me $10. Chris@wd-r.com HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Man what a sad state of affairs it must be kid when you have to beg people to send you money for advice. Think it's time to go down to the Mickey D's and strap on your fry smock and assume your real job. I mean how do you think you rate even asking people for money???? I have talked to indy racing team engine builders about deck clearances and such and guys at sema pushing LSVTECs into the 300 rwhp range all-motor, about valvetrains and intakes, all for free, so you tell me again where you rate charging people for money on an internet forum?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 I don't care who you talk to. I talk to Brad at RLZ and Don F from DFE. Eat that bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted December 19, 2005 Author Share Posted December 19, 2005 Eat that bitch. Wow. That was hilarious. I was reading out loud, and just stopped and laughed. My local tuner has a guy he knows in Canada who works wor Sunrise JDM motors, and can get me a LS block 550 shipped. Normal price = 650 +shipping. B20 he has for 600 +shipping. Maybe I'll do the LS ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Oh yeah. I also build engines for a living so I can play around with clearances and see what works for myself. I can get a LS longblock for under $200. Thats only if I build them though. Otherwise they are the normal going price for a LS longblock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted December 19, 2005 Author Share Posted December 19, 2005 Damn man. That's a hella-good price. I want to work at some type of shop so that I can get sweet deals. I'll tell you what, you get me a built LS Block for 500 dollars and I'll send you a free plasma TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpakc1 Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Oh yeah. I also build engines for a living so I can play around with clearances and see what works for myself. I can get a LS longblock for under $200. Thats only if I build them though. Otherwise they are the normal going price for a LS longblock. that's why you ask one of your nuthugger buddies for 10 bucks for some advice. Because your so hooked-up. Still laughing on that one. Go strap on your smock and have my fries ready, that's all you need to do for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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