Unpredictableacts Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Ok well at the present time I have a 95 true SI civic hatch. It has a B16 swap in it and just does not provide the kind of power and tourque that I want.....dont get me worng it is fun to drive and I can squak the tires all the way to third ,but I need something else, seems like somehting is missing. I was going to do a B20 swap with a JR supercharger and that way I could use my B16 head and tranny and axale and such, but for some stupid reason I am thinking "GO H22" in my mind....ONe thing that is keeping me from this is the cost, changing everything over to enable the H22 swap,plus i heard that the added weight and handling are crap after the swap. So the reason for this thread is so that cost to build this swap could be posted.....the work would be done by me and a frien so that labor would be on me, but please post you r comments of the B20 SCharged compared to a a H22 all motor...and also prices on things to do so. I know a few of you guys have thought about it a time or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90IntegraC1 Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 keep the B16 trans and axles etc... get a quartersports Drag H2B adapter plate. get a JDM H22A Longblock put it together and run 12's all day. /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unpredictableacts Posted January 23, 2007 Author Share Posted January 23, 2007 keep the B16 trans and axles etc... get a quartersports Drag H2B adapter plate. get a JDM H22A Longblock put it together and run 12's all day. /thread lol just like that, didnt you decide against that same swap? also what would be the negatives of using a B16 tranny with that motor? Also where could that adaptor be puchased? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90IntegraC1 Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 i was just gonna do a H22 full swap into my teg, which is more annoying. quartersportsdrag.com or something for the h2b adapter I'd get a ITR trans b/c of the LSD, but a GSR trans would be nice.....B16 just isn't as strong IMO, it's not used to more than 111 tq lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanGSR Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 B20 Vtec would be nice and awesome with a JR Supercharger. Both are far from unique, but the B20 Vtec has a little more wow factor IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unpredictableacts Posted January 23, 2007 Author Share Posted January 23, 2007 The tranny I gave now is LSD I forgot to mention that. not sure where it came from though. also how much did you end up selling your H22a longblock for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90IntegraC1 Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 $1700 bought it for $1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unpredictableacts Posted January 23, 2007 Author Share Posted January 23, 2007 $1700 bought it for $1000 not bad....how much was the H2B for the teg? I called and they dont open until 3 pm....so I left a message...just trying to get an idea on what this will cost me....I assume you were going to run stock internals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90IntegraC1 Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 i dunno cause i wan't gonna do that, but i just know of the website that makes them.... post up the price for the adapter price from them cause i'm curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben. Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 B20 Vtec would be nice and awesome with a JR Supercharger. Both are far from unique, but the B20 Vtec has a little more wow factor IMO. Yea and without internals with just the conversion you'll be going "Wow, this is f*cking sad/slow." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unpredictableacts Posted January 23, 2007 Author Share Posted January 23, 2007 Yea and without internals with just the conversion you'll be going "Wow, this is f*cking sad/slow." Think so....what internals would you advise.....if i went all motor? or are you talking about the B20 SC set up and of course i would have done low compression and changed out internals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanGSR Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Yea and without internals with just the conversion you'll be going "Wow, this is f*cking sad/slow." Well for one, WHAT?? A bone stock B20 with JR S/C (no VTEC head) would flat scream and kill off the line. Second, if your mating one block with a different head, it wouldn't be too tough to build the engine too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben. Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Well for one, WHAT?? A bone stock B20 with JR S/C (no VTEC head) would flat scream and kill off the line. Second, if your mating one block with a different head, it wouldn't be too tough to build the engine too. LOL my apologies for the confusion. I meant just a b20vtec conversion, no f/i at all. god they're sad. and, obviously..if you're going to swap heads it'd be simple to build it up. i agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unpredictableacts Posted January 24, 2007 Author Share Posted January 24, 2007 LOL my apologies for the confusion. I meant just a b20vtec conversion, no f/i at all. god they're sad. and, obviously..if you're going to swap heads it'd be simple to build it up. i agree. what would be the difference in a stock internal B20 vtec head and a B18ls swap? same situation except now there is more displacement and the LSB18 is done every day driven with out F/I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxscaxx Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 orrrr just keep ur b16 and turbocharge it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unpredictableacts Posted January 24, 2007 Author Share Posted January 24, 2007 orrrr just keep ur b16 and turbocharge it. not to insult or bash but i am not a turbo fan.....not saying I dont like them stock but not something I feel the need to drop extra $$$ for...would rather have the supercharger if I have to choose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanGSR Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 B20 is the only motor made by honda that I would rather have supercharged over turbo. A supercharged B16 would be weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unpredictableacts Posted January 24, 2007 Author Share Posted January 24, 2007 B20 is the only motor made by honda that I would rather have supercharged over turbo. A supercharged B16 would be weak. AGREED!.....at the same time I am thinking the H22 would offer torque and power in an all motor set up. for roughly the same amount or less than what I would have involved in the B20vtec/SC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanGSR Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Here's a link of a n/a B20-Vtec in a "heavier" DC2 chassis on street tires. 12.9 all motor and daily driven. That's pretty impressive to me. Not saying an H22 couldn't do the same, but if you're building a CR-VTEC then you'll already have the pieces apart so building the motor won't be any harder than building the CR-VTEC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unpredictableacts Posted January 24, 2007 Author Share Posted January 24, 2007 Here's a link of a n/a B20-Vtec in a "heavier" DC2 chassis on street tires. 12.9 all motor and daily driven. That's pretty impressive to me. Not saying an H22 couldn't do the same, but if you're building a CR-VTEC then you'll already have the pieces apart so building the motor won't be any harder than building the CR-VTEC. DAMN......I had no idea it could be that badass all motor. I know I can pick up a B20 block cheap.....maybe under $200....and then I could drop another $1000 in internals....and if I really wanted to another $1000-1500 on a SUPERCHARGER, and for 2200-2700 I would be unfrackbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unpredictableacts Posted January 24, 2007 Author Share Posted January 24, 2007 i dunno cause i wan't gonna do that, but i just know of the website that makes them.... post up the price for the adapter price from them cause i'm curious. $750 shipped to anywhere in the 48 states. That B20 swap is looking a bit more interesting now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch92 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 DAMN......I had no idea it could be that badass all motor. I know I can pick up a B20 block cheap.....maybe under $200....and then I could drop another $1000 in internals....and if I really wanted to another $1000-1500 on a SUPERCHARGER, and for 2200-2700 I would be unfrackbelievable. $1000 for internals? the pistons alone will be about $400, rods about the same so now your at around $800. you still have to buy a crank if the block doesn't have one and rings if they don't come with the pistons. I've price internals for a b18 and they were almost $1500 for everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unpredictableacts Posted January 24, 2007 Author Share Posted January 24, 2007 ....give or take.....I was planning on it haviing the crank.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben. Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 b20-vtec is badass WHEN built. but just the common swap and conversion is crapty. couldn't really tell you any difference in an ls/b20 swapped eg hatchback. they're both slow, and, even with a b16 tranny..i STILL loathe them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unpredictableacts Posted January 25, 2007 Author Share Posted January 25, 2007 Well I can get a B20 43k miles unmolested motor for $450 local. What all will be need to make a successful swap internals on out.....if I went the all motor route that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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