Ben. Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Well I can get a B20 43k miles unmolested motor for $450 local. What all will be need to make a successful swap internals on out.....if I went the all motor route that is. This is just my opinion Re-sleeve, bore out to your choice of size (wouldn't go too big being as it'll probably be daily driven) cp pistons 12.5:1, maybe 12:1 depends on the tuning, how much you'll drive it. amarillo/pauter rods b16/b18c1 head, your choice..your money. rm cams/valvetrain/headwork victor x intake manny/itb setup of some sort, your choice..your money. itb's are high dollar though. smsp header (or something DECENT, aka toda, smsp, rs*r) hondata or crome pro tuning with injectors..wouldn't go bigger than a 330 and that's already pushing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unpredictableacts Posted January 25, 2007 Author Share Posted January 25, 2007 This is just my opinion Re-sleeve, bore out to your choice of size (wouldn't go too big being as it'll probably be daily driven) cp pistons 12.5:1, maybe 12:1 depends on the tuning, how much you'll drive it. amarillo/pauter rods b16/b18c1 head, your choice..your money. rm cams/valvetrain/headwork victor x intake manny/itb setup of some sort, your choice..your money. itb's are high dollar though. smsp header (or something DECENT, aka toda, smsp, rs*r) hondata or crome pro tuning with injectors..wouldn't go bigger than a 330 and that's already pushing it. wow maybe I should have said this......I have an lSD tranny, b16 motor as of now so I have the catless 2.5 exhaust, tuning pros header , so I have the head.....was leaning towards JE pistons and eagle H beam rods.......from that point I am all ears. The car will be driving dailey, I want to build a fast,dependable dailey driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben. Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Eagle rods are fine. JE pistons are ..meeeeeeeh, okay. WHen you say you have an LSD tranny.. you're telling me what? LSD in a GSR tranny? b16 tranny? LS tranny? Or a standard issue ITR/LSD tranny setup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unpredictableacts Posted January 25, 2007 Author Share Posted January 25, 2007 Eagle rods are fine. JE pistons are ..meeeeeeeh, okay. WHen you say you have an LSD tranny.. you're telling me what? LSD in a GSR tranny? b16 tranny? LS tranny? Or a standard issue ITR/LSD tranny setup? you know I am not quite sure I bought it in 05 with the swap done i just know I had receipts that showed the LSD tranny, let me see if I can locate that....is there a code on the tranny itself that i can find to tell its exacts? JE oversized forged pistons are just ehhhh?....hummm. I also realized on the B20 the rev limit is lower than the B18/B16......wil this truely hurt me? 7200 probably being the limit........more low end less high end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben. Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 you know I am not quite sure I bought it in 05 with the swap done i just know I had receipts that showed the LSD tranny, let me see if I can locate that....is there a code on the tranny itself that i can find to tell its exacts?JE oversized forged pistons are just ehhhh?....hummm. I also realized on the B20 the rev limit is lower than the B18/B16......wil this truely hurt me? 7200 probably being the limit........more low end less high end. Old b20 redline won't matter if you get a VTEC head (b18c1/c5 b16a2) built, it's the head you'll want to worry about when you go into building the motor. Honda blocks/internals are pretty tough, but if you're going higher compression then you're obviously gonna have to break it down. So.. that 7200 rpm redline can be tossed out of the window regardless of which of the three b-series v-tec head's youre gonna use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unpredictableacts Posted January 25, 2007 Author Share Posted January 25, 2007 Here's a link of a n/a B20-Vtec in a "heavier" DC2 chassis on street tires. 12.9 all motor and daily driven. That's pretty impressive to me. Not saying an H22 couldn't do the same, but if you're building a CR-VTEC then you'll already have the pieces apart so building the motor won't be any harder than building the CR-VTEC. I contacted the shop that built this integra and inquired about the build......they are in pourta rico(sp?) and he said that the pistons are ace something some shop makes them and puts them on ebay.....and they are 84mm.....I emailed him to send me a list of internals and what nots that was done to the engine......but after the whole piston thing I am not so sure....... and my block is a B16a block and head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kegger Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Drop Wiseco pistons in it. I plan on doin a CR-VTEC build when I get back from active duty. And that is what im planning on doing. Mated to Eagle-H beams. OEM rod and main bearings, with ARP rodbolts. I was going for 11:1 CR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unpredictableacts Posted January 27, 2007 Author Share Posted January 27, 2007 Izf the B20z all motor was a go and you were working the build and money was an issure ,but you wanited to spend it where it really needed to be spent....what internals would you go stock with and what would be upgraded and pampered? in other words how would one spend 2k for the build?not including the auctual b20 motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kegger Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Ok well you've got the B16 head so I'm gonna assume that you have the ECU, dizzy, and harness for it. And not including the B20Z block. Wiseco pistons Eagle H-beams OEM rod and main bearings (only cuz they are cheaper than ACL) CR-VTEC oil line kit ARP rod bolts and head studs Gaskets and belts Decent header and ok intake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unpredictableacts Posted January 28, 2007 Author Share Posted January 28, 2007 Ok well you've got the B16 head so I'm gonna assume that you have the ECU, dizzy, and harness for it. And not including the B20Z block. Wiseco pistons Eagle H-beams OEM rod and main bearings (only cuz they are cheaper than ACL) CR-VTEC oil line kit ARP rod bolts and head studs Gaskets and belts Decent header and ok intake I got a nice header set up and a weapon R secret weapon intake, so that can also be taken off. also please give links or website where these can be bought or prices for the items...I need to start at least getting some thing together, ill pick up the block sometime this next weekend. And as far as the ECU I have a vtec controller and a P72 ECU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kegger Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Pistons Rods Bearings Any for the B18A/B application will work Headbolts Rodbolts you need the 8mm ones You can get gaskets and belts from any auto parts store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unpredictableacts Posted January 29, 2007 Author Share Posted January 29, 2007 nice...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unpredictableacts Posted February 20, 2007 Author Share Posted February 20, 2007 WHat about this...and if it is a bad idea, i am sure you guys wont hold back.............B16 head,B20 block with stock internals ....run it with stock internals while I save up for internal upgrades......1.5k-2.5k for internals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kegger Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 You'll be fine running that. Just don't try to spin it up to 9000 rpm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unpredictableacts Posted February 21, 2007 Author Share Posted February 21, 2007 You'll be fine running that. Just don't try to spin it up to 9000 rpm. lol i dont even run my B16 to 8k.....will that setup do a 7800 without a problem?....keep in mind it is a DD setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Ok well you've got the B16 head so I'm gonna assume that you have the ECU, dizzy, and harness for it. And not including the B20Z block. Wiseco pistons Eagle H-beams OEM rod and main bearings (only cuz they are cheaper than ACL) CR-VTEC oil line kit ARP rod bolts and head studs Gaskets and belts Decent header and ok intake Why would you buy new internals and not get ACL bearings? This thread has some terrible info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unpredictableacts Posted February 21, 2007 Author Share Posted February 21, 2007 Why would you buy new internals and not get ACL bearings? This thread has some terrible info. So lets hear the correct info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcat467 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Good luck getting correct info. SolLes never is on anymore and when he is, all he does is criticize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrorocketeer Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 I think all he wanted to add was the bearings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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