good question about parts in LSVTEC

[mountaindewguy]

i already did....

 

and for the record, EVERYTHING IS OBD2A. (HEAD, BLOCK)

CAR is 95 civic, OBD1

ECU, is p28 OBD1 ECU from SOHC

harness is OBD1 vtec from SOHC

 

now, what dizzy do i use, thats it

 

and since i'm using the civic harness, do i need the jumper harness

ORRRRR

if i use a teg harness (obd2) do i just need a jumper harness for the ECU?

 

the way i figure it, i get a b series OBD2 dizzy (OBD2A) and a teg harness, and get a jumper harness.

or just use my civic harness and don't use a jumper harness.

 

from here on out, unless you know exactly what you're doing. don't post.

cranny, solles, ring in lol.

and all answers from here on out are in stupid english lol

[SolLesHonda]

Cranny = pwnt.

[cranny]

hahaha , for once i totally agree with solles , lol , no matter how much i dont like it. ok easy dude. you need a dizzy from an obd1 integra. or you can do like solles says , get any one and repin or change wiring so each sensor is on its correct wire leading to ecu. simple. your P28 will plug right into your car. ill make an ecu map for ya , just give me a bit.

[SolLesHonda]

Mike = 1, Cranny = 0

 

 

Lol.

[mountaindewguy]

ok, lets put it in stupid english.

 

so is my route now:

 

obd1 dohc vtec dizzy

p28 ecu chipped, tuned, basmapped

and the SOHC harness?

 

will that work? this way i dont need the jumper harness?

[mycarsux]

lol the moment of truth

[SolLesHonda]

Yes.

[cranny]

sounds good to me. the thing is the cars be it integra or civic , are wired the same , but , obd1 tegs and civics , obd2a tegs and civics , so on. so if you stay obd1 parts , will make your life easier , thats all i was getting at.

 

heres as far as i got in your ecu map , this is for obd1 Si and Dx civics :

 

A01 green , injector 1

A02 yellow , injector 4

A03 red , injector 2

A04 orange/white , VTS(spool solenoid valve , Z1 and Z6 engines)

A05 light blue , injector 3

A06 orange/black , HTCNTL(heated oxygen sensor , B7 , Z6 engines)

A07 green/yellow , FLR1(main relay)

A08 green/yellow , FLR2(main relay)

A09 green/white , IACV

A10 not used

A11 orange/blue , ES(egr control solenoid valve , Z1 engine only)

A12 yellow/green , FANC(fan control)

A13 green/orange , WARN(check engine light)

A14 not used

A15 red/blue , ACC(ac compressor clutch relay)

A16 white/yellow or pink , ACGC(alternator)

A17 ATLSB(A/T solenoid , a/t only)

A18 not used

A19 ATLSA(A/T solenoid , a/t only)

A20 red , PGS(purge cut off solenoid valve)

A21 red/green , IGP1(ignitor)

A22 red/green , IGP2(ignitor)

A23 PG1

A24 PG2(ground/mainrelay)

A25 IGP1

A26 LG1

 

B01 IGP2

B02 LG2

B03 ATD3(D3 indicator , a/t only)

B04 ATD4(D4 indicator , a/t only)

B05 blue/red , ACS(ac switch)

B06 not used

B07 CLSW(switched ground for M/T) ; ATNP(park neutral indicator , a/t only)

B08 brown/red , PSW(power steering pressure sensor switch)

B09 white/blue , STS(main relay)

B10 yellow/blue , VSS(speed sensor)

B11 CYLP(cylinder sensor)

B12 CYLM(cylinder sensor)

B13 TDCP(top dead center sensor)

B14 TDCM(top dead center sensor)

B15 CRNKP(crank position sensor)

B16 CRNKM(crank position sensor)

 

D01 not used

D02 green/white , BKSW(brake pedal switch)

D03 LABEL(laf sensor , Z1 engine only)

D04 brown , SCS(service check connector)

D05 not used

D06 orange/blue , VTM(vtec oil pressure switch , for D16Z1 and D16Z6 engines)

D07 light blue , TXD/RXD(data link connector)

D08 VS+(laf sensor , Z1 engine only)

D09 white/yellow or pink , ACGF(alternator)

D10 green/red , EL(eld unit)

D11 not used

D12 white/black , EGRL(egr valve lift sensor, for D15Z1 only)

D13 red/white , TW(tw sensor , tied into data link connector)

D14 orange/black , heated O2 sensor(for B7 , Z6 , Z1((IP+ also)), engines) ; O2(non heated , for B8)

D15 red/yellow , TA(ta sensor , tied into data link connector)

D16 orange/black , IP-,VS-(laf sensor)

D17 not used

D18 pink/green , SIL(shift up indicator , m/t) , white/red (interlock control unit , a/t)

D19 VCC1(map sensor)

D20 VCC2(egr valve)

D21 SG1(map sensor)

D22 SG2(connected to all engine sensors for data link connector)

 

like i said im really not finished this yet , im making one for all the cars , few things ill update.

[mountaindewguy]

awesome sounds great. will i run into any plugging issues with the civic harness or will everything plug in right? that is being the head is obd2 and so is the block, thanks!

[cranny]

i would say yes although im not 100% positive. like i mentioned before , obd2 and obd1 cars are different entirely. if you were using all obd1 parts , engine and head as well , youd have no problems. since your using obd2 head and block , it will have obd2 sensors. the sensors most likely are 95% the same. but lets for example say the 2 map sensor wires leaving the ecu are blue and red(examples) , well in an obd1 car , the blue and red wires are going to the map sensor. but in an obd2 car , it could be the blue and white wire for the map sensor , and they could leave the ecu from a different location. so at the sensor plug end of the wires(once P28 is plugged in), the blue and red one in obd2 could be going to somin other than the map sensor. you see what im getting at?

 

your best bet is when unplugging all your wiring harness under the hood when taking engine out , label them all.

 

lets get to obd2 ecu maps , make this easier. theres 4 sockets in obd1 and 2 ecu's but one is for autos only , in obd1 , its C plug. in obd2 , its B plug.

 

all 96-98 models except D16B5 , 99-00 D16Y5 w/ manual tranny

 

 

OBD2a(ecu pin) , Function , Color , (Notes)

 

A01 , Injector 4 , Yellow

A02 , Injector 3 , Blue

A03 , Injector 2 , Red

A04 , Injector 1 , Brown

A05 , SO2SHTC , black/white

A06 , PO2SHTC , Orange/black

A07 , D16Y5 with m/t-pink(E-EGR) ; CVT-red(esol)

A08 , VTS , green/yellow , (D16Y5 , D16Y8)

A09 , LG1 , brown/black

A10 , PG1 , Black

A11 , IGP1 , Yellow/Black

A12 , IACV , black/blue , (D16Y5 , D16Y8 w/. M/T)

A13 , *1: ORN(IACV N)

A14 , *1: BLK/BLU (IACV P)

A15 , PCS , red/yellow

A16 , FLR , Green/Yellow

A17 , ACC , Black/Red

A18 , MIL , Green/Orange

A19 , ALTC , white/green , (USA)

A20 , ICM , yellow/Green

A21 ----------------

A22 , LG2 , Brown/black

A23 , PG2 , Black

A24 , ICP2 , Yellow/Black

A25 , CVT , WHT/RED (VREF)

A26 ----------------

A27 , FANC , Green , (USA)

A28 , *2: BLU (2WBS)

A29 , *2: LT GRN/WHT (VSV)

A30 , SIS , white/red , (SLU for CVT) (shift up indicator light)

 

connector B only for auto tranny only

 

B01 WHT(LS-1)

B02 RED(LS+1)

B03 BLU/YELLOW(SHA)

B04 GRN/BLK(LC B)

B05 YEL(LC A)

B06 ------

B07 ------

B08 PINK(ATP D3)

B09 ------

B10 ------

B11 GRN/WHT (SHB)

B12 WHT/RED(SLU)

B13 GRN/BLK(D4 ind)

B14 WHT(NM SG)

B15 RED(NM)

B16 WHT(ATP R)

B17 BLU(ATP 2)

B18 -----

B19 -----

B20 -----

B21 -----

B22 GRN(NC SG)

B23 BLU(NC)

B24 YEL(ATP D4)

B25 LT GRN(ATP NP)

 

C01 CKFP , blue/red

C02 CKPP , Blue

C03 TDCP , green

C04 CYPP , yellow

C05 ACS , Blue/Red

C06 STS , Blue/orange

C07 SCS , Brown

C08 K-line , light blue

C09

C10 VBU , White/Blue

C11 CKFM , white/red

C12 CKPM , white

C13 TDCM , red

C14 CYPM , black

C15 VTM , blue/black , (D16Y5 , D16Y8)

C16 PSPSW , green , (USA)

C17 ALTF , white/red

C18 VSS , blue/white

C19 -----

C20 -----

C21 -----

C22 -----

C23 D16Y5 with M/T-BLK(IP +)

C24 D16Y5 with M/T-RED(IP-,VS-)

C25 D16Y5 with M/T-WHT(VS +)

C26 -----

C27 -----

C28 -----

C29 CLSW , red , (D16Y5 w/. M/T) ; ATPNP , light green , (CVT only)

C30 TMB , PINK , (CVT only)

C31 -----

 

D01 TPS , red/Black

D02 ECT , Red/White

D03 MAP , red/green

D04 VCC1 , Yellow/red

D05 BKSw , Greem/White

D06 KS , Red/blue , (D16Y8/CVT)

D07 PHO2S , White , (all , except , D16Y5 w/. M/T=LABEL)

D08 IAT , red/yellow

D09 EGRL , white/black , (D16Y5 only)

D10 VCC2 , Yellow/blue

D11 SG2 , Green/black

D12 SG1 , Green/white

D13 SHO2SG , green/black , (D16Y5 , D16Y8) ; red/yellow , (D16Y7)

D14 SHO2S , white/red

D15 *2:light green , (PTANK)

D16 EL , green/red , (USA)

 

 

*1=D16Y5 , D16Y8 w/. A/T

*2=D16Y7 , all

[cranny]

heres an obd2b ecu map i just finished , i made these using the service manuals so there right for sure. most of the crap you can find is wrong.

 

D16B5 , all 99-00 models except D16Y5 w. M/T

 

A01 *1 , STS CHTL , blue/white

A02 *1 , TFO , green/yellow

A03 *1 , FWARN , blue/red ; *4 , 2WBS , blue

A04 *1 , F METER , orange ; *4 , VSV , light green/white

A05 *2 : CRS , blue/green

A06 *4 : PCS , red/yellow

A07 ATP D , yellow , (CVT only)

A08 So2S HTC , black/white

A09 ATP DN , light green , (CVT only)

A10 SCS , brown

A11 -----------

A12 -----------

A13 -----------

A14 *3 : D4IND , green/black

A15 -----------

A16 FLR , green/yellow

A17 ACC , black/red

A18 MIL , green/orange , (engine light)

A19 *4 : NEP , blue

A20 FANC , green

A21 *1 : K LINE , light blue ; *4 : K LINE , blue/yellow

A22 *1 : PFO , blue/yellow ; ATP L , blue , (CVT only)

A23 SHO2S , white/red

A24 *1 : STS , blue/orange ; *4 : STS , blue/white

A25 -----------

A26 PSPSW , green

A27 ACS , blue/red

A28 A/T : white/red

A29 *4 : light green , PTANK

A30 EL , green/red

A31 -----------

A32 BKSW , green/white , (brake switch)

 

B01 IGP1 , yellow/black

B02 PG1 , black

B03 injector 2 , red

B04 injector 3 , blue

B05 injector 4 , yellow

B06 *4 : IACVP , black/blue

B07 E-EGR , pink , (D16B5) ; ESOL , red , (CVT only)

B08 *1 : LS- , white ; HLC LSM , pink/black , (CVT only)

B09 IGP2 , yellow/black

B10 PG2 , black

B11 injector 1 , brown

B12 *2 : VTS , green/yellow

B13 ICM , yellow/green

B14 INJ MOD , light green , (D16B5)

B15 *4 : IACV N , orange

B16 -----------

B17 *1 : LS+ , red ; HLC LSP , green/white , (CVT only)

B18 SC LSM , pink/black , (CVT only)

B19 -----------

B20 LG1 , brown/black

B21 VBU , white/blue

B22 LG2 , brown/black

B23 *3 : IACV , black/blue

B24 -----------

B25 SCLSP , yellow , (CVT only)

 

C01 PO2SHTC , black/white

C02 ALTC , white/green

C03 *1 : KS , red/blue

C04 -----------

C05 ALTP , white/red

C06 *2 : EGR2 , white/black

C07 SG1 , green/white

C08 CKPP , blue

C09 CKPM , white

C10 *3 : VTM , blue/black

C11 -----------

C12 -----------

C13 TF2 , green/red , (D16B5)

C14 PF2 , blue/red , (D16B5)

C15 -----------

C16 PHO2S , white

C17 MAP , red/green

C18 SG2 , green/black

C19 VCC1 , yellow/red

C20 TDCP , green

C21 TDCM , red

C22 CKFP , blue/red

C23 VSS , blue/white

C24 -----------

C25 IAT , red/yellow

C26 ECT , red/white

C27 TPS , red/black

C28 VCC2 , yellow/blue

C29 CYPP , yellow

C30 CKFM , white/red

 

D connector is for D16B5 except CVT , and 99-00 CVT trannys

 

connector A : *1= D16B5

*2= D16Y7/D16Y8 with a/t

*3= a/t except CVT

*4= except D16B5

 

connector B : *1= a/t except CVT

*2= except D16Y7

*3= m/t except D16Y7

*4= a/t , and all D16Y7

 

connector C : *1= CVT , D16Y8 , B16A2

*2= CVT , D16B5

*3= except D16Y7

 

feel free to copy and paste boys , good to have.

[cranny]

and heres an obd0 ecu map with dpfi and mpfi comparison also already done :

 

OBD0 DPFI to MPFI Comparison Pinouts

 

 

DPFI MPFI

Pin# Wire Color Function Wire Color Function

A1 Yellow 2 Aux Injector , Brown #1 Injector

A2 Black 1 Main Relay/Ground , Black 1 Main Relay/Ground

A3 Yellow 1 Aux Injector , Red #2 Injector

A4 Black 2 Main Relay/Ground , Black 2 Main Relay/Ground

A5 Red 2 Main Injector , Light Blue #3 Injector

A6 Green Purge Cut Off Solenoid Valve (Coil) , Green Purge Cut Off Solenoid Valve (Coil)

A7 Red 1 Main Injector , Yellow 1 #4 Injector

A8 Yellow 3 Sedan LX (A/T only)

A10 Red EGR Solenoid Control Valve (Coil) (A/T only)

A11 Blue/Yellow EACV (Coil) , Blue/Yellow EACV (Coil)

A12 Green/Black 2 Main Relay , Green/Black 2 Main Relay

A13 Yellow/Black 2 Main Relay , Yellow/Black 2 Main Relay/Injector Resistor Box

A14 Green/Black 1 Main Relay , Green/Black 1 Main Relay

A15 Yellow/Black 1 Main Relay , Yellow/Black 1 Main Relay/Injector Resistor Box

A16 Brown/Black Ground , Brown/Black Ground

A17

A18 Black/Red Ground , Black/Red Ground

 

Pin# Wire Color Function Wire Color Function

B1 White/Green Hazard Fuse , White/Green Hazard Fuse

B2 Orange Tandem Control Solenoid Valve , Blue 1 Fast Idle Control Solenoid Valve

B3 Yellow A/C Clutch Relay , Yellow A/C Clutch Relay

B4 Yellow/Green Radiator Fan Relay , Yellow/Green Radiator Fan Relay

B5 White/Yellow Alternator , White/Yellow Alternator

B6 Green/Orange Check Engine Warning Light , Green/Orange Check Engine Warning Light

B7 Green/Orange Position Console Switch (Park, Neutral) , (A/T only)

B8 Blue/Red A/C Switch , Blue/Red A/C Switch

B9

B10 Orange Crank Angle Sensor

B11 Green/Black A/T Shift Position Console Switch (Drive) , (A/T only)

B12 White Crank Angle Sensor

B13 Blue/White Main Relay , Blue/White Main Relay

B14 Blue 2 To Yellow, To Alternator Blue 2 Alternator

B15 White 1 Ignitor Unit White 1 Ignitor Unit

B16 Yellow/Red Speed Sensor Yellow/Red Speed Sensor

B17 White 2 Ignitor Unit White 2 Ignitor Unit

B18

B19 Green/Red Electric Load Detector Green/Red Electric Load Detector

B20 Brown Ignition Timing Adjusting Connector Brown Ignition Timing Adjusting Connector

Pin# Wire Color Function Wire Color Function

C1 Orange Crank Angle Sensor Blue/Green Cylinder Position Sensor

C2 White 4 Crank Angle Sensor Blue/Yellow Cylinder Position Sensor

C3 Orange/Blue TDC Sensor Orange/Blue TDC Sensor

C4 White/Blue TDC Sensor White/Blue TDC Sensor

C5 Red/Yellow TA Sensor Red/Yellow TA Sensor

C6 Red/White 1 TW Sensor Red/White 1 TW Sensor

C7 Red/Blue Throttle (Position) Angle Sensor (TPS) Red/Blue Throttle (Position) Angle Sensor (TPS)

C8 Yellow EGR Lift Valve Sensor

C9 Red/White 2 PA Sensor Red/White 2 PA Sensor

C10 Green/White 3 Brake Switch Green/White 3 Brake Switch

C11 White 1 MAP Sensor White 1 MAP Sensor

C12 Green/White 2 EGR Lift Valve Sensor/Pa Sensor/Ignition Timing Adjusting Connector/TA Sensor/TPS Sensor/TW Sensor Green White 2 Pa Sensor/Ignition Timing Adjusting Connector/TA Sensor/TPS Sensor/TW Sensor

C13 Yellow/White EGR Lift Valve Sensor/Pa Sensor/TPS Sensor Yellow/White Pa Sensor/TPS Sensor

C14 Green/White 1 MAP Sensor Green/White 1 MAP Sensor

C15 Yellow/Red MAP Sensor Yellow/Red MAP Sensor

C16 White 3 O2 Sensor White 3 O2 Sensor

[SolLesHonda]

Good stuff Cranny. Saved to my computer.

[cranny]

wooohooo , i guess thats mike-2 , and cranny - 1 , hahaha