Sephiroth Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 I have a 93 Prelude which I'm looking at doing a bit of a rebuild on as I've given it a bit of a hard time and its smoking a little bit when cold now and over 200000 k's pretty newb when it comes to car so just posting to get some ideas of what I can do to get more power out of it NA don't wanna turb a fwd, and also what are the most important things to replace on rebuild to get high compression levels again? Also what are the most important things for stopping it from smoking and burning oil, Im guessing piston rings what about valve rings? etc anything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocifero Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 I have a 93 Prelude which I'm looking at doing a bit of a rebuild on as I've given it a bit of a hard time and its smoking a little bit when cold now and over 200000 k's pretty newb when it comes to car so just posting to get some ideas of what I can do to get more power out of it NA don't wanna turb a fwd, and also what are the most important things to replace on rebuild to get high compression levels again? Also what are the most important things for stopping it from smoking and burning oil, Im guessing piston rings what about valve rings? etc anything else Firstly, = you? Secondly, there's nothing wrong with turboing a FWD, I dunno what the deal it. I would worry about stopping the smoking and get everything working straight before I even thought about bumping up the power. But yeah high comp. pistons, cams, camshafts, change the intake manifold, change the throttle body. The big 3: Intake, header, exhaust (if you don't have that already). Start with getting it running right, trust me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 haha yes me. Okay sweet, well I didn't wanna do turbo just because fwd doesn't grip as well from launches, I suppose it wouldn't be that bad once moving but yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrIaN EG2 Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 theres nothing wrong with boosting a fwd, if you know how to launch it right you wont spin.... too much lol but the best bang for your buck would be to boost it.. id do exactly what was stated before, get it running right first then id boost it.. and DO NOT mix boost with highcompression pistons.. hc pistons + boost = engine detonation.. BOOST OR GTFH! :effyou: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocifero Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Technically, the best bang for you buck mod for power would be nitrous. But again, don't do that without making sure the motor runs right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrIaN EG2 Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 if you think about it N2o wouldnt be because you have to keep refilling the bottle and it would end up costing more that a turbo kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocifero Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 if you think about it N2o wouldnt be because you have to keep refilling the bottle and it would end up costing more that a turbo kit What, you gonna have the bottle switched on 24/7?? No one does that, just when they wanna whoop someone's ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrIaN EG2 Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 still boost > juice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocifero Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 still boost > juice I agree with you, just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 But how well would stock internals handle a turbo or nos?, I've just heard from people that stock internals on honda's can't really handle vtec plus turbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted November 24, 2009 Author Share Posted November 24, 2009 Another question would it be better spending money on a engine swap to a h22a type s from a 5th gen with low k's or could I make my current engine faster than the type - s with same amount of money spent on upgrading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocifero Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 But how well would stock internals handle a turbo or nos?, I've just heard from people that stock internals on honda's can't really handle vtec plus turbo Who told you that? Certain motors handle boost better than others. The F22 series handle boost better than the H22 for instance because of iron lining. Stock, even an h22 can hande up to 7 lbs safely so I've heard. But the F series can go higher without modding the internals. Another question would it be better spending money on a engine swap to a h22a type s from a 5th gen with low k's or could I make my current engine faster than the type - s with same amount of money spent on upgrading Bingo. A normal h22 swap is like $1500-$2000, while the type s or Euro R versions are about $3500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted November 24, 2009 Author Share Posted November 24, 2009 Who told you that? Certain motors handle boost better than others. The F22 series handle boost better than the H22 for instance because of iron lining. Stock, even an h22 can hande up to 7 lbs safely so I've heard. But the F series can go higher without modding the internals. Bingo. A normal h22 swap is like $1500-$2000, while the type s or Euro R versions are about $3500. so you're saying go with the type s/euro r swap?, thats 5k in my country so it would be faster with the swap than spending 5k on racing cams and all that sort of stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocifero Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 so you're saying go with the type s/euro r swap?, thats 5k in my country so it would be faster with the swap than spending 5k on racing cams and all that sort of stuff no i'm sayin to go with a normal swap and hook it up yourself. More power for less money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted November 24, 2009 Author Share Posted November 24, 2009 Okay sweet really appreciate the help, how much extra hp could I expect from better cams and what would be good ones to look at getting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocifero Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Okay sweet really appreciate the help, how much extra hp could I expect from better cams and what would be good ones to look at getting? Depends on everything else you have so it's hard to predict the gains. You could go after market or OEM with cams. OEM like Type S or Euro R (might be the same) are popular. Not as much HP as after market, but less aggressive too, so better for a daily driver. So it depends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrIaN EG2 Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 i like my stock cams with my skunk2 cam gears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted December 4, 2009 Author Share Posted December 4, 2009 hey i was looking at JUN cams just wondering if their any good and if i'd notice a power increase with them? or should i get something like this http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/C...n-257092357.htm their cheap and good condition and could do the grinding but would the jun be better??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch92 Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 any aftermarket performance cam, will increase power....some more than others. However i wouldn't put any kind of cam or performance part into it until you found out why it's smoking. even something as "mild" as a cam change. I would do a compression test, and or a leak down test to figure out where and what is causing the burning oil and or low compression before you do any kind of performance work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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