2004 Information Needed

[streetkeys]

I just discovered this site and am very interested in sharing information and experiences with other Honda Civic owners.

 

It would be really appreciated if anyone here knows how to get hold of some 2004 owner’s manuals (or photocopies of a few pages in them).

 

I would be using it for our website (www.streetkeys.com) to compile an information library of how to program car keys for newer Honda Civic models. This would be basically a source for those of you who are do-it-yourself types who want to save time and money by programming in new keys yourselves.

[..SSR..]

You can't, it's called copyright infringement.

[optional187]

programming keys?

 

you boost cars for a living don't you.

 

what about the 3 years in juvi you spent for boosting cars?

 

really...who needs to reprogam a key?

[Mercutio]

Ouch...that was a bit personal...

[streetkeys]

Are you guys stupid or what? All I am trying to do is provide another source where Honda owners can go to get objective information. The information is out there and its no secret at all. Come on think outside of the dealership box.

 

Additonally, it's not copyright infringement if you reference the source.

[optional187]

seriously...i'm asking a decent question.

 

why do you need to reprogram keys?

[..SSR..]

It is infringment if you list the source. You have to get permission first.

[streetkeys]

There is a definite need to program keys especially if a consumer wants to avoid the time or money associated with going through a dealership. Dealerships are good at selling cars and they really can't compare to security professionals when it comes to making spare keys.

[streetkeys]

Hey NAZI don't you realize that if a work which has no commercial value, such as a a typical paragraph from a Honda owner's manual, the actual damages will be zero. Only the most vindictive (and rich) author would sue when no damages are possible, and the courts don't look kindly on vindictive plaintiffs, unless the defendants are even more vindictive. I am only trying to make the experience easier for fellow Honda owners. I guess you really have never experienced the pain of losing your only set of keys and having to tow your car to the dealership, hand over a bunch of dollars becuase you thought that the dealership was the only option.

[optional187]

you still haven't answered my question, you just keep bs'ing around it.

 

why exactly would someone need to reprogram a key?

 

EDIT: just read the post above this...you're right. i have never lost my keys. if you're stupid enough to lose your keys, then you deserve to have to go through all the hastle associated with getting a new set. i don't see why you'd have to tow you're car to the dealership, just get a friend/relative to give you a ride up to the dealership and prove you own the car...then ask for a replacement key.

 

personally, i wouldn't want information about how to program keys for cars on the internet. that just makes it that much easier for someone to steal my car.

[Mercutio]

I think he mis-phrased his old statement. He wants to be able to reprogram a blank key for spares. I believe that's what he's trying to say. If not, he's stealing his girlfriend's car...

[..SSR..]

No one needs to reprogram a key. If a key is messed up, then it has to be replaced.

 

It doesn't matter what it is, infringement is infringement.

 

EDIT: Also, I have locked my keys in my car before. Go to ANY Honda dealership with your VIN and they will cut you a new key for less than $3.

[streetkeys]

Optional,

 

You would need to program or clone a new key in anytime you want an extra key or anytime you want to add in new keys when all keys are lost. The usual procedure is to replace the computer module when all keys are lost and this replacement cost, along with the labor to do it, is pretty expensive...not to mmentin the hours or days you would have to wait to get the whole process completed.

 

Making spare keys is less of a hassle but it still is possible to be done by a security professional who has the right clongin equipment. It basicall involves inserting your existing key into a desktop machine that reads and records the electronic code in the chip of the key and then recording the code into the chip of your new key...the whole process can be done in a few seconds...our cost is minimal (both in terms of money and time). There is a myth that only dealerships can do this but security professionals can do it too, and usuall with better results since they are focused on keys and locks. i am not here to argue I just wanted to exchange information but I feel like i'm being forced to defend my views....which i don't mind doing since I am a law student.

[streetkeys]

NAZI,

 

Losing keys is NOT the same thing as locking them in your car. The outcome may be the same but the solution is different. Locking them in your car can be fixed quickly with a simple unlocking. Losing all keys requires replacing your cars computer module.

 

Many people need to reprogram keys, especially those that have lost a set and are worried that the lost key will be used to steal their vehicle later on. Others have to reprogram keys when one of the locks (ignition, door, or trunk) was replaced.

 

You make too many assumptions and simplifications about topics you really don't understand fully enough. Either that or you are brainwashed like a typical NAZI.

[streetkeys]

I have to share some more info in order to minimize any misunderstandings about high tech keys. It would be very difficult for someone to steal a car since transponder sytsems are extremely effective antitheft devices. First of all the keys are very difficult to program unless you have an existing key. Then you would need a diagnotistic device to program or clone new keys and these machines are only owned by licenced security professionals or dealerships and both will require two ids and registration papers to prove ownership.

[..SSR..]

NAZI,

 

Losing keys is NOT the same thing as locking them in your car. The outcome may be the same but the solution is different. Locking them in your car can be fixed quickly with a simple unlocking. Losing all keys requires replacing your cars computer module.

 

Many people need to reprogram keys, especially those that have lost a set and are worried that the lost key will be used to steal their vehicle later on. Others have to reprogram keys when one of the locks (ignition, door, or trunk) was replaced.

 

You make too many assumptions and simplifications about topics you really don't understand fully enough. Either that or you are brainwashed like a typical NAZI.

1. Yes it is. You lose your key, you go to a dealership and have them cut a key same as if you locked it in your car.

 

2. You don't have to replace anything if you lose your keys. You think a computer controls your door locks? Idiot. Honda Civic use 8 pin tumbler locks, no computer involved unless it is keyless entry, then, a computer uses a solenoid to move the door lock rod, still no need for a new anything.

 

3. If you lose your keyless entry keypad, you go to your dealership and get a new one. No need to reprogram something you don't have.

 

4. You think a door lock will stop someone from stealing your car? Guess you don't hear about the dozens of Hondas stolen every week which have alarms, kill switches, etc.

 

5. NAZI's weren't brainwashed, they were simply soldiers who fought for Hitler when he was attempting to annex all of Europe. The Gestapo was brainwashed, they are the ones that killed Jews, Polish, etc.

 

6. 0wn3d

[streetkeys]

Gestapo,

 

You still don't undertand the technology or the concepts related to immobilizer units but I still don't mind enlightening you.

 

I am talking about the units which prevent the engine from starting unless there is an existing key present. If there is no existing key then this must take place. You can't expect the dealership to go back into their stock room and come back with a magic key. What must take place is the ICU must be removed and replaced with a new ICU along with a matching Master key and a red Learning key.

 

 

"1. Yes it is. You lose your key, you go to a dealership and have them cut a key same as if you locked it in your car."

 

You can get it cut to match the mechanical cuts of your lost key, but the important thing is that it will NOT start your car becuase your ICU is still looking for the electonic code coming from your lost key. Don't say that you can easily obtain this code from the dealership...when all of your keys are lost this is not possible. In addition there is a limit that your ICU can store (mainly 5 different codes at a maximum).

 

"2. You don't have to replace anything if you lose your keys. You think a computer controls your door locks? Idiot. Honda Civic use 8 pin tumbler locks, no computer involved unless it is keyless entry, then, a computer uses a solenoid to move the door lock rod, still no need for a new anything."

 

You are still using illogical reasoning. If there is no keys present, then you must replacce your ICU. When you replace your ICU, you must replace your master and learning keys since only the new master key and red learning keys will work. When you replace these keys, you must rekey your locks. There I have proven by cause and effect that you have to replace things, many things.

 

"3. If you lose your keyless entry keypad, you go to your dealership and get a new one. No need to reprogram something you don't have."

 

You DON'T have to go to your dealership. There is a BETTER solution. You can visit our sister company's website at www.keylessride.com to get a genuine factory remote at 50% of what the dealerships cost.

 

"4. You think a door lock will stop someone from stealing your car? Guess you don't hear about the dozens of Hondas stolen every week which have alarms, kill switches, etc."

 

I am not talking about the door locks by themselves. I am just saying what good is it for someone to break a window if they still can't get the engine to start. If the wrong key is placed into the ignition cylinder, the ICU will detect this and immobile the engine from starting for at least one hour. Even placing a working ignition key in the cylinder will have no effect until this hour ihas passed.

 

"5. NAZI's weren't brainwashed, they were simply soldiers who fought for Hitler when he was attempting to annex all of Europe. The Gestapo was brainwashed, they are the ones that killed Jews, Polish, etc."

 

NAZI's and their ideology were definitely inferior (similiar to your boken logic) and that is why the Allies won the war. Case closed.

[Mercutio]

Gestapo,

 

Insert crap I'm not going ot read here

 

"5. NAZI's weren't brainwashed, they were simply soldiers who fought for Hitler when he was attempting to annex all of Europe. The Gestapo was brainwashed, they are the ones that killed Jews, Polish, etc."

 

NAZI's and their ideology were definitely inferior (similiar to your boken logic) and that is why the Allies won the war. Case closed.

Um...Yeah, you're stupid. It wasn't mentality that broke the war, it was technology, numbers, alliances, and tactics. Brainwashing had nothing to do with anything about the war. Sure, propaganda could be called brainwashing, but it isnt. For an example of "Facist Germany" take a look a little closer to home. What about all those dumb-fracks who went out after 9-11 and beat Indian, Afgan, Arab, and Muslim people to death. What the hell did they do wrong? Nothing! What did the American Soldiers do during the war...Kill german soldiers. Look at that from another perspective, mainly the german's. Bush is like Hitler. He's a bull-headed republican in place of a Facist Nazi. Big-Whoop. The only reason he isn't carpet bombing Iraq is because of the UN, Oil, Our own troops, and Political Correctness of the new world.

 

Im f*cking done, Okay. Quit using God Damn racial terms and just f*cking leave if you're not getting what you originally wanted from us. Please.

[streetkeys]

Mercutio,

 

This board is to exchange information. Someone did email me some information. You can't tell me or anyone to do anything. What are you a bully? The only reason the NAZI word was used was because that was the name that SSR had right below the image. You seem like an identical copy of SSR in terms of your logical reasoning.

 

Why are you done? Can't spare the brain power? Can't feel comfortable taking a stand?

 

Who said mentality won the war. You again are using a faulty argument since the evidence does not establish or adequately support your conclusion. I said NAZI's and their ideology were definitely inferior (similiar to your boken logic) and that is why the Allies won the war. Idealogy does not mean mentality (what are u a high school student?). Idealogy simply means an orientation that characterizes the thinking of a group (like the NAZI group) or nation.

[optional187]

i just looked at your website...you have to buy a key, then have it shipped to you. wouldn't that take just as long as going to the dealership, if not longer? plus then you have to find a "streetkeys" place around you, which...i don't know of any around me...take them the key (ride the bus?) and have them program it...which you said is very hard to do because you have to have an original key to copy in the first place.

[..SSR..]

1. Honda cuts keys with chips in them.

 

2. If you lose all of your keys and get to the last key that disables the others, you're an idiot.

 

3. Civics don't have immobilizers.

 

4. If you actually studied, you would discover that Hitler was a genious.

 

5. No advertising without paying.

[Mercutio]

StreetKeys. What I meant by "I'm done" is that I am not going to waste my energy arguing with you. It's pointless. And I didn't "tell you to leave" I asked you, because as it seems to stand, nobody cares, and nobody wants.

[streetkeys]

Optional,

 

The value we are presenting to consumers around the world is best total cost (in terms of money and time and convenience). We have the largest network of security professionals in North America and that helps us provide local hassle free service to consumers. Actually it could be faster going through us since I have had to wait about 4 business days when I placed orders from a local Honda dealership.

[streetkeys]

USSR,

 

 

1.Honda cuts keys with chips in them.

 

Correct. No reason tto state the obvious. Are you on drugs or something?

 

2. If you lose all of your keys and get to the last key that disables the others, you're an idiot.

 

WRONG. Actually this happens to many people especially when they buy a used car that comes only with one working key.

 

3. Civics don't have immobilizers.

 

WRONG. Honda Civics from 2001 and up are equipped with immobilizer systems that are standard on all models.

 

4. If you actually studied, you would discover that Hitler was a genious.

 

WRONG. I have studied Hitler in college and he is no genius since he had neither neither exceptional intellectual ability nor originality...he had charisma and that is different than intelligence. If you are talking about genius, Einstein would definitely be defined as a genius.

 

5. No advertising without paying.

 

WRONG.

[streetkeys]

I saw your profiles and now it makes sense why you statements are pointless, immature, and inaccurate.