Toxic Posted March 27, 2004 Posted March 27, 2004 ok i plan on getting a dc header and a skunk2 or a greddy evo2 exhaust and putting it on my stock car... anyone know if they will be fine on a stock car or will they not work well until i get my turbo... also if they are fine on stock will they be ok when i get my turbo? thanks.
optional187 Posted March 27, 2004 Posted March 27, 2004 your turbo won't work with the dc header, it should come with a turbo manifold that will replace it. so thats wasted money. if you get a greddy exhaust you'll need to get a 3'' if you plan on turbo'ing the car. the 3'' will cause you to lose horsepower before you actually get the turbo, so i don't suggest you actually do anything until AFTER you get the turbo. you still have a lot of researching to do before you're ready to turbo your car.
Toxic Posted March 27, 2004 Author Posted March 27, 2004 cool tnx... i was thinkin about waiting to get a turbo thats why i was thinkin about getting the dc header and about the exhaust i was pretty sure that there was something different between a turbo exhaust and a non turbo exhaust. so what do you think i should know about before i get a turbo? what should i research cause i have plenty of time... my gf is grounded for two weeks and the weather has been crapty so i need something to do...
optional187 Posted March 28, 2004 Posted March 28, 2004 you need to research what all a turbo consists of. if you thought that the dc header would work with a turbo then obviously you don't know all the componets that go along with a turbo. there isn't really anything different between turbo and non-turbo exhausts besides diameter. the turbo needs a larger diameter because its flowing more air, but non-turbo cars would be losing power with a bigger exhausts system than it needs. you should look into getting a greddy turbo, i'm not sure if they make one for the del sol though (your profile says you have a del sol, so i'm assuming you have one instead of a civic.) depending on what del sol you have it should work though. pm buddysol, he used to have a turbo set up for sale off his del sol...not sure if he sold it or not. he probably did since that was a while ago and turbo's are pretty hot. not to mention he's pretty trustworthy and honesy, so i'm sure a friend of his probably snatched it off his hands pretty quick. how much money are you planning on spending on a turbo?
Toxic Posted March 28, 2004 Author Posted March 28, 2004 well now i gotta see whats up with my sisters car cause i hit a deer last night and i think totaled the car... but if im pretty sure insurance is covering everything and she said she got anything else covered... so if thats true i really dont care how much im spending... i was looking at the rev hard stage II turbo kit with ball bearings at turbokits.com... thats 3.5k right there plus an exhaust... i wasnt really planning on getting a turbo right away but from what ive been noticing i should just turbo it and work around the turbo...
optional187 Posted March 29, 2004 Posted March 29, 2004 what car/engine is this going into? i hit a deer in my civic. insurance covered everything under comprehensive for free (i had a $0 ductible.) if you do a search you can probably find the thread in the general discussion, if you care. got the civic fixed, then sold it and bought my current car. now i'm looking to sell it and get something different, and i know when i annouce what i'm getting everybody here is going to give me a hard time.
..SSR.. Posted March 29, 2004 Posted March 29, 2004 You're getting a 240???? Just build your bottom, then get a turbo.
optional187 Posted March 29, 2004 Posted March 29, 2004 You're getting a 240???? i'll go domestic before i go nissan...and i'm not going domestic anytime soon.
..SSR.. Posted March 29, 2004 Posted March 29, 2004 i'll go domestic before i go nissan...and i'm not going domestic anytime soon. You're getting an S2000?
optional187 Posted March 29, 2004 Posted March 29, 2004 no but close guess. i've actually been spending some time at my local subaru dealership lately... of course no final decisions have been made, and its still at least a month or so off from happening.
Mercutio Posted March 29, 2004 Posted March 29, 2004 crap man, I wish I had the cash for a WRX. One of my dream cars...unless you get a wagon...in which I will need your home address...
optional187 Posted March 29, 2004 Posted March 29, 2004 joecollins wants to get a wagon. if he does get a wagon i'm hoping i can look to him for some advice and maybe some parts or something. he needs to come back to florida... if i do indeed get one i'll be getting a sedan.
Toxic Posted March 29, 2004 Author Posted March 29, 2004 im putting it on the del sol... so suggestion is to build my bottom end first and then drop in the turbo? for a del sol vtec will the 3" dia. drain a lot of power? and my sisters car is taken care of... i dont gotta worry bout it... so far this is my plan... help me out here... greddy evo2 exhaust/injen or iceman cai/wheels/strut bars/springs and that will probably be around the same time... then idk about how long be4 i get the turbo but i dont plan on going that long w/o it... so after the first 5 things i would go rev hard stage II turbo kit/blitz turbo timer and sometime around the turbo im planning on getting a new fuel rail and injectors (before/same time/after ... what do you suggest?). is there anything im missing? i cant think of other things right now but it feels like im leaving something out... oo and bout the del sol topic in the civic forum sry bout it... no1 ever goes to the del sol forum nemore and a del sol is somewhat a civic (so said the honda dealership during the first few years).
optional187 Posted March 29, 2004 Posted March 29, 2004 you don't really have to get a turbo timer unless you're in that much of a hurry to not sit in your car and let it idle for a few minutes after you've run it hard befor turning it off. but, if you do get a turbo timer get the hks type 1...it does everything a turbo time should plus it measures 0-60 time, 1/8, 1/4, 60-0 and more i believe. plus its only $100, much less than the g-tech pro (the new one anyways) but i don't think it measures hp...which is a let down.
BigBirdSucks Posted March 29, 2004 Posted March 29, 2004 a Greddy exhaust and intake would be worthless on a turbo del Sol. there is one huge key to your turbo setup. how are you going to tune it? what are you going to use for engine management? what about a boost controller and such? are you actually going to build the bottom end up?
Toxic Posted March 29, 2004 Author Posted March 29, 2004 im still not 100% sure what im doing and i dont plan on doing nething for a lil time still... im open for suggestions and just getting the basic route i wanna take this car... so as of right now im throwing out ideas and im accepting as much imput of others as possible... thats why i made this post kinda... haha
BigBirdSucks Posted March 29, 2004 Posted March 29, 2004 my best suggestion is this... if you don't know what you're going to do with the car, keep it stock until you've made up your mind.
Toxic Posted March 30, 2004 Author Posted March 30, 2004 ok i really wanna get a tubo it but im looking at all my options too... so gime the 411 on turbo if ya dont mind
..SSR.. Posted March 30, 2004 Posted March 30, 2004 Click here for a awesome search engine that will help you find what you need to know. Honda search engine database.exe
optional187 Posted March 30, 2004 Posted March 30, 2004 Click here for a awesome search engine that will help you find what you need to know. Honda search engine database.exe haha buddysol has a del sol, though i don't think its vtec, and he used to have a turbo on it. so he's probably the person with the most knowledge on this perticular car/engine. i keep wishing he'd reply but i think he's on spring break right now, haven't seen him in a while and i remember him saying that he was going up to new york for spring break pretty soon. give it another week and hopefully he'll find this thread, or you can pm him. check out howstuffworks.com for a general explanation of how turbo's work, vtec works, etc. its really helpful.
Toxic Posted March 30, 2004 Author Posted March 30, 2004 lmao!! tnx for the search engine... lol!!!! aight ill have to pm him tnx
joecollins2 Posted March 30, 2004 Posted March 30, 2004 greddy evo2 exhaust/injen or iceman cai/wheels/strut bars/springs ...rev hard stage II turbo kit/blitz turbo timer and sometime around the turbo im planning on getting a new fuel rail and injectors (before/same time/after ... what do you suggest?). is there anything im missing? Greddy Evo exhaust is awsome. I rocked it al couple of times. I love it! It adds good power especially on turbo's and it sounds awsome. It's got a nice, deep tone to it, not raspy at all. Injen RD or AEM V2 CAI. Iceman is a waste of your frackin moeny and installation time. Yeah, plastic tubes rock! >_< Wheels, go for some light wheels, like Rota wheels, they're cheap and look good! Springs, go with the whole coilover setup, spring, shock everything. It's expensive but quality... Rev Hard... I don't know. Haven't dealt with them too much. Why not a HKS turbo timer? You can do all kinds of nice crap with it... New fuel rail and injectors, I'd say same time. If you're suddenly going to have all this air coming in wouldn't you want more fuel to mix with it? Unless you want it to run lean as crap and blow something.... As far as turbo exhaust manifolds go just use the one that comes with the kit. However, if you want to be real slick take it and your stock intake manifold to a machine shop or somewhere and have them port the crap out of them! Oh by the way, I would really recommend a boost controller. The Apexi AVC-R is nice. Don't get the manual crap. With the Apexi you can set the injector duty cycle per cylinder and all kinds of crazy crap that you probably wouldn't understand if I told you.... That's just my $0.02 worth...
BigBirdSucks Posted March 30, 2004 Posted March 30, 2004 Hondata > Apex'i a Greddy EVO will add power, but for forced induction, you'll need a 3" exhaust. yeah, buying an expensive intake that will be useless when he turbos the car! isn't wasting money great?!
joecollins2 Posted March 30, 2004 Posted March 30, 2004 Hondata > Apex'i a Greddy EVO will add power, but for forced induction, you'll need a 3" exhaust. yeah, buying an expensive intake that will be useless when he turbos the car! isn't wasting money great?! Opinion. The Greddy Evo did wonders for me on my TURBO Si... You don't NEED 3'' exhaust as desperatly as everyone makes it sound. It would always be nice to have though. Good point! I didn't even think about that!
Toxic Posted March 30, 2004 Author Posted March 30, 2004 tnx joe u actually answered my question lol... one more question tho that hasnt been answered... if i get a 3" exhaust will it drain a lot of power if i get it w/o the turbo? and about the intake i figure they only run bout 150-200 for a basic one and it will help out till i get my turbo... also if i get the 3" exhaust and it does drain some power maybe the cai will cover for it? just what im thinkin... tnx again joe
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