95b16a Posted March 20, 2004 Share Posted March 20, 2004 hey guys, so i have got a dilema for some of you honda die hards... iam gettin a 95 honda civic CX, and iam going to do an engine swap in it, i will probobly order it from www.hmotorsonline.com because i have heard they are the best and care about there customers, so my dilema is what engine should i put in it, i would like to spend less then $2500 all together on the swap, at first i was going to go with a b16a2, but after checking out the prices and power outputs i think i will ask your opinions... here we go B16A 92-93 Integra, 170Hp 113Trq 10.4 Compression $1799 B16A2 92-95 (SiR-II)170Hp 113Trq 10.4 Compression $2250 H22A 92-95 200Hp 161Trq 10.6 Compression $2199 B18C 94-95 180Hp 126Trq 10.6 Compression $1799 these are all the "complete changeover" which includes pretty much everything, and i am gonna say i will need to purchase new motor mounts, and possibly new axles, but other then that what one would u guys recomend and why, i am edging towards the H22A because of its power, and much higher torque but it doesn't rev as high as the other engines, over time i will proboly do full bolt ons, CAI, headers, exhaust, hondata vtec controller, cams, cam gears etc... i would like to be able to smoke mustangs camaros etc... iam hopefully looking for low 13s high 12s eventually when i am done, so what do u guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted March 21, 2004 Share Posted March 21, 2004 1. If you're just doing it so you can lose to stock Mustang GT's at the track, don't waste your money. If you're doing it to enter in drag racing series, do it. 2. If you said yes to the second part of #1, then get the B18C. The difference in torque though small will be very noticable. 3. Don't get an H22. They are heavy ass engines and cost a lot to put in. 4. It doesn't matter how high the engine revs. Word of the day is powerband. 5. Hondata doesn't make a VTEC controller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95b16a Posted March 22, 2004 Author Share Posted March 22, 2004 1. If you're just doing it so you can lose to stock Mustang GT's at the track, don't waste your money. If you're doing it to enter in drag racing series, do it. 2. If you said yes to the second part of #1, then get the B18C. The difference in torque though small will be very noticable. 3. Don't get an H22. They are heavy ass engines and cost a lot to put in. 4. It doesn't matter how high the engine revs. Word of the day is powerband. 5. Hondata doesn't make a VTEC controller. (1)iam doing it for fun, a project and so i have a resonably fast reliable car and haven't spent to much money... (3)yes i have heard they are heavy and what not, but from what i have heard from ppl who have actaully done the swap it isn't that big of a deal, its more specualtion then anything, i will be doing a new lowered suspension setup and if it is that bad i could compesate for it.... (5)well i thought a vtec controller was something that controlled at what RPM the cam change over occurs if not thats what i meant, and hondata systems do that as well as many other things and thats what i want... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBirdSucks Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 you don't need a VTEC controller if you don't have aftermarket cams and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95b16a Posted March 22, 2004 Author Share Posted March 22, 2004 you don't need a VTEC controller if you don't have aftermarket cams and such. well if u didn't read the original post that the topic is about, you would have learned that i am going to be doing full bolt ons, which will include CAMS, therefor i can take full advantage of a vtec controller, but thanks for your input....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 1. Why waste an engine for fun when someone who actually races can use it better? 2. You can't compensate for added weight. 3. Cams aren't bolt-ons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckmofo Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 If you go with the h22a it will eventually cost as much as a b18c but it will be faster, if u go with the b16a2 it will be around 2700 with shippin and all that. So u basically have 3 engine at around the same price. Do it for what ever the fawk reason you want to do it! Oh any b series would most likely take a mustang (gt stock) The h22a would need special mounts plus special axles. the b18c1 and b16a2 would need some a/c brackets which you could get from the del sol (b16a) That about answers your question with out people taking shots at u, act'in immature, thinking they have 800hp civic, and no I'm car god let me list some reasons for you and if u choose this one then blah. what a bunch of degenerates. If your gonna help the guy give him some info if not SHUT THE fawk UP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckmofo Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 1. Why waste an engine for fun when someone who actually races can use it better? 2. You can't compensate for added weight. 3. Cams aren't bolt-ons. ???? the b18c has this >180Hp 126Trq the h22a has this.> 200Hp 161Trq Hmm does that make up:? What the fawk? well lets do the math. geee bubba i'm a dumb white trash incest fawk up. The b18c is faster arrrrwooooeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee What a dumbass. The b18c1 will fit in much easier though i'll give you that. Oh and also they have the same compression Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 It doesn't matter how much power the H22 has. It weighs 75 pounds more than the B18C1. If you knew anything, you would rather have the B. Also, I already answered his questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckmofo Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 It doesn't matter how much power the H22 has. It weighs 75 pounds more than the B18C1. If you knew anything, you would rather have the B. Also, I already answered his questions. So kids it dosen't matter if u have a 300hp motor because if it weighs more then the 100hp motor . its all about weight not power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTKO Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 Yeah weight does make a big difference. Thats a big reason why our cars are as fast as they are, weight. Thats like saying that if you put a 502 big block in a f*cking tank it be faster then a pos 3 cylinder yugo. I think the B series would definately be your best bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckmofo Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 so your saying stock for stock.: a b18c vs. h22a in a hatch back the b18c would win? I think not. Check out the trq its like 161 to 121 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 I never said it would win. I said it's better. It also has better gearing and response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojangles Posted April 6, 2004 Share Posted April 6, 2004 h22 alllllllllllllll thhhhhhhhhhhhe way. Prelude power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckmofo Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 safest,best bet is probably the b18c5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 You're an idiot. Higher compression and cams for N/A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckmofo Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 I thought out of those three b18c had the lowest compression!? thats why so many people boost it compared to the b16a&h22a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 B16A people don't use due to small displacement H22 people don't use because it is heavy B18C5 people don't use because it is an all motor engine B18C1 people use because it is a good engine to turbo B18B people use because it is non-VTEC and is cheap/strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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