DelSolSweetie Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Since this is one of the most popular combos of street brakes thought i'd post this up front brake has always had a slight noise to it.. but i also knew that the hawks were known to make noise sometimes so i didnt pay much attention I have had these brakes on since september of 2008 btw.. most driving is highway so brakes last a while with me past couple days ive heard a metal on metal grinding and couldnt figure out wtf it was.. pads are still at least 3/4 good.. and the dust cover wasnt hitting anything.. front of rotor looked perfect as well.. we pulled the caliper off today (well chris did because they impacted the hell out of the bolts and he somehow managed to break them lose) and we saw this: if you cant tell from the pic the pad has somehow cut INTO the rotor (that or the rotor had a perfect soft spot that allows the rotor to be shaved away instead of the pad) we dremled the pad down in that area to make it workable for now and so it wouldnt continue to cut into the rotor, made the sound worse though lol probably ordering new front pads and rotors tomorrow, debating on sticking with hawk/brembo or going with another good street combo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedDemon Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 ouch lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelSolSweetie Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 pics dont show how bad that crap really looked in person lol probably should have taken more angled pics but we needed to get it done.. started pouring rain right after that and now we have *2* 7m's to rebuild that needs to be done before aug. 28th because we might be going to a show (16/18 spots reserved for the supras are mki, mkii's, and mkiv's... i was like wtf i have two mkiii's we will bring them lol havent heard back about passes yet so idk) and we have been trying to get my motor pulled apart but between chris working and working/living 150 miles away its been a PITA.. got most of the motor pulled apart.. just need crank bolt out.. then put it back together after honing the cylinder walls back to original topic.. WTF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocifero Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 I use Brembo discs, but I've always used Raybestos ceramic pads. Saved my life, or at least my cars life immediately after installing them. Almost pulled out into traffic but a car came at the last minute and it stopped on a friggin dime. I kinda want to try different pads to be more knowledgeable. But I only change them 2 years or so and I don't want something inferior :sad: Doesn't anyone do side by side comparisons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelSolSweetie Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 idk ive never heard anything bad about hawk but idk where the hell this came from.. i dont like having to buy all new stuff cause a rotor is getting ate up i emailed hawk and was like wtf.. hopefully i'll hear back from them in the AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastresort576 Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 I wasn't a fan of my brembo blank hawk hps set-up at all..The braking performance sucked. Everyone recommends the set-up and going with a blank rotor and is the reason why I got it way back when. I'd say get the ATE rotors and hawk HP+ pads from tirerack.com. They had the best prices I saw any where. $47ea. for the rotors...and by far is one of the best braking set-ups I've ever drove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTiS Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 what about the ebc greenstuff? i wanna say iv heard good stuff about them but cant remember. iv heard baer rotors are good as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedDemon Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 makes my oreilly vented rotors and premium pades look like sh1t...they only last about 12-14 months at the most Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastresort576 Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 what about the ebc greenstuff? i wanna say iv heard good stuff about them but cant remember. iv heard baer rotors are good as well. Not really that great..I've talked to a lot of guys at the track and they've tried the ebc's. They all were disappointed with their performance and went back to hawk's or more track car only products like carbotech etc....some of the cars were nissan's, honda's, lotus', camaro's, miata's/rx-8's,...Never talked to any of the STI/EVO guys though..they usually have opposing heat's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelSolSweetie Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 I wasn't a fan of my brembo blank hawk hps set-up at all..The braking performance sucked. Everyone recommends the set-up and going with a blank rotor and is the reason why I got it way back when. I'd say get the ATE rotors and hawk HP+ pads from tirerack.com. They had the best prices I saw any where. $47ea. for the rotors...and by far is one of the best braking set-ups I've ever drove. hawk hp+ says for autocross/track not quite sure if i get enough heat in them for them to work properly not sure if you can see the pad left on the hawks in the pic but the material is about as wide as my finger if not more (~3/4 left if not more) my average driving when im in school is ~10 miles on backroads that dont require much braking unless i hit a redlight/stop sign.. ~20 miles on highway that maybe have to stop at one light.. ~10 miles in city which also doesnt require much braking because a lot of the lights are green on my way to school anyone ever use these: http://www.tirerack....993&autoModClar= they are slightly cheap but the reviews are quite good.. two reviews said they previously had brembo blanks and these were better.. but slightly more brake dust anyone use akebono? still not sure if i want to go back to hawk after that bs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastresort576 Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 hawk hp+ says for autocross/track not quite sure if i get enough heat in them for them to work properly not sure if you can see the pad left on the hawks in the pic but the material is about as wide as my finger if not more (~3/4 left if not more) my average driving when im in school is ~10 miles on backroads that dont require much braking unless i hit a redlight/stop sign.. ~20 miles on highway that maybe have to stop at one light.. ~10 miles in city which also doesnt require much braking because a lot of the lights are green on my way to school anyone ever use these: http://www.tirerack....993&autoModClar= they are slightly cheap but the reviews are quite good.. two reviews said they previously had brembo blanks and these were better.. but slightly more brake dust anyone use akebono? still not sure if i want to go back to hawk after that bs yeah they're def a auto-x pad/track pad..but they're on like the cusp of the two..I DD them and don't have an issue with heat..If I'm gonna be doing some 'spirited' runs on the twisties, I'll work them a lil bit ahead of time to get some heat in them and on the first corner they're hot(the initial bite is insane!) Also, I do mostly hwy..and I usually just engine brake to help save the pads too. and yeah the hps pads last a long time. My old set still has a ton of life left in them. I put like 30k miles on them...However I some how managed to shear the material off the backing plate at some point in it's life on one pad. I was looking at those rotors before I got the ATE's and had them in the cart ready to buy. but changed it up at the last second. Just wanted to try a slotted type rotor for myself..and I haven't heard anything about the akebono's. I looked into them a lil myself but that was all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelSolSweetie Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 Ive been emailing with the guy from hawk he said it looked like debris was in the middle of the pad.. it does loook like that in the picture but i dont remember anything being there or coming off.. he also asked how much life was left on the pad for idk why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastresort576 Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Ive been emailing with the guy from hawk he said it looked like debris was in the middle of the pad.. it does loook like that in the picture but i dont remember anything being there or coming off.. he also asked how much life was left on the pad for idk why hmm good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelSolSweetie Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 I just want to see what they say before I chance this bs happening again esp. if i buy the ate rotors or what not im thinking about trying those black rotors.. they are cheap but the reviews are so good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeryon Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 depending the wear level of the pad they may send you new pads under warranty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelSolSweetie Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 I told him about 1/2-3/4 left (probably a low estimate TBH) centric owns/is owned by stop tech might give those blanks a try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocifero Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 hawk hp+ says for autocross/track not quite sure if i get enough heat in them for them to work properly not sure if you can see the pad left on the hawks in the pic but the material is about as wide as my finger if not more (~3/4 left if not more) my average driving when im in school is ~10 miles on backroads that dont require much braking unless i hit a redlight/stop sign.. ~20 miles on highway that maybe have to stop at one light.. ~10 miles in city which also doesnt require much braking because a lot of the lights are green on my way to school anyone ever use these: http://www.tirerack....993&autoModClar= they are slightly cheap but the reviews are quite good.. two reviews said they previously had brembo blanks and these were better.. but slightly more brake dust anyone use akebono? still not sure if i want to go back to hawk after that bs wtf you think that no name brand is better than Brembo? I'll tell you this, I've had rotors warp in the past, but I've had to slam on the brakes on these for various reasons and they still are not warped. Brembo is known for that. They only other brand I would consider is the NAPA stuff. http://www.napabrakes.com/wps/portal/napabrake/c1/jc4xD4IwEIbhX2R6LbRllQhtBXtEBJHFdDCGRMDB-PstTuiA5sbnvuQlLfE3uGd3dY9uHNyNNKQV5yIqEqoVAzQ8BJaXtY7LYp-l1Ptp7oHZAONpQCUcaFTzf9ZWZAaZ9Z7zGNg21FW13oEy8GN9nGrnHzUm_gODvJRSSZTf_lGHKBb9XT_5Qp_VY38h975qoDOrF244QEc!/dl2/d1/L2dJQSEvUUt3QS9ZQnB3LzZfUDhQRTFIRzIwT0k1NDAyTFNWSEJTUFJLRjE!?WCM_GLOBAL_CONTEXT=/wps/wcm/connect/affinia_websites_content_en/affinia.websites.content/Products/General/napa_brakes/Rotors/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelSolSweetie Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 wtf you think that no name brand is better than Brembo? I'll tell you this, I've had rotors warp in the past, but I've had to slam on the brakes on these for various reasons and they still are not warped. Brembo is known for that. They only other brand I would consider is the NAPA stuff. http://www.napabrake..._brakes/Rotors/ wtf are you talking about "no name brand is better then brembo"? I obviously DONT think that otherwise i'd be buying brembos right now I dont like CHEAP crap which is why i was asking about the centric.. but if they are owned/own stoptech then i cant see them being bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastresort576 Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 I warped the Sh*t outta my brembo's when I had them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelSolSweetie Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 I havent had any problems with mine lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocifero Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 wtf are you talking about "no name brand is better then brembo"? I obviously DONT think that otherwise i'd be buying brembos right now I dont like CHEAP crap which is why i was asking about the centric.. but if they are owned/own stoptech then i cant see them being bad I don't think I like your tone missy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelSolSweetie Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 i dont like YOUR tone missy mr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeryon Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 roffle i have had my brembos and hawk hp pads for a hair over two years now. have logged about 3000 miles on them. car sits out in the weather. haven't done any auto-x. when i do drive it I am usually raping the hell out of it - accel and braking. aside from looking rusty as all hell and the pads dragging badly until the rust cleans off they have worked excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocifero Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 i dont like YOUR tone missy mr Hmph... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelSolSweetie Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 guy from hawk is blaming it on debris.. when we took them off them were clean.. we were expecting a rock or something but found nothing pic looks like it has crap in the middle of it for some reason though.. idk if thats metal from the rotor or what we dremled the pad down so we could put it back on for the time being since i have to drive the car.. sound still persisits.. i really think its a pad imperfection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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