MChester Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 Has anyone installed H4 HID bulbs in the OEM headlight housings? I'm considering it, but concerned about blinding oncoming traffic since the OEM housings were not designed for HIDs. I'm used to HIDs in my other cars and the Del Sol H4s just don't cut it. Another option is to get the "For off road use only" high watt H4 bulbs. Any thoughts from personal experience?
Stevotron5000 Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 I'm considering it, but concerned about blinding oncoming traffic since the OEM housings were not designed for HIDs. Just answered your own question.
nobody Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 does anyone kno if purple hid's are illegal? lol
MChester Posted October 19, 2009 Author Posted October 19, 2009 Just answered your own question. As I stated, that is my CONCERN, however I am looking for folks that have actually DONE this and KNOW the result, and aren't just presuming to know... Each vehicles reflector will act differently depending on its design. They aren't all the same. So, the question still stands... If any of you have actually done this, I'd like to hear your opinions...
MChester Posted October 19, 2009 Author Posted October 19, 2009 does anyone kno if purple hid's are illegal? lol I know in Ohio, or at least my little piece of it, HIDs that are not in the 4000-5000 color range will get you attention from THE MAN. Don't know how much the ticket is, but I don't want to find out either. I think if you stick to the slightly yellow to bright white, you are OK. It's when you start drawing undue attention with the blues and purples that you are going to get noticed in the wrong way.
airjordan223 Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 Do not do it. They scatter horribly and will blind oncoming drivers. Just get some sylvania bulbs and that will help a lot. But if you do want to splurge for some projectors, there are a few people who have custom made some.
Pballer2005 Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 i have hid highs and halogen lows, 4300k and yes they scatter a lot, but are soooo much better than the halogen lows. and purple hid's are 2 things, yes illegel, and homo. anything higher than 5k is just going to be dimmer. my friends ask why my $100 no name kit is brighter than all of their 8K-10K, $300 kits, its because i have 4300k.
OTiS Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 how do you have hid high halogen lows? isnt the ek civics bulbs one bulb? op you can go crazy and make your own retrofits but its more trouble than its worth. i ran hids without projectors for a bit and it was bright as fawk. light scatter tbh wasnt that bad. i guess it could help to aim them down a bit. like airjordan said some sylvania bulbs should do it
Pballer2005 Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 how do you have hid high halogen lows? isnt the ek civics bulbs one bulb? op you can go crazy and make your own retrofits but its more trouble than its worth. i ran hids without projectors for a bit and it was bright as fawk. light scatter tbh wasnt that bad. i guess it could help to aim them down a bit. like airjordan said some sylvania bulbs should do it i'm baller like that.... people who complain about glare need to try living in sourthern california. big trucks and suv's and their fog lights are eye level. and flashing your brights at someone for thinking their lights are too bright will only get you the finger
MChester Posted October 19, 2009 Author Posted October 19, 2009 how do you have hid high halogen lows? isnt the ek civics bulbs one bulb? op you can go crazy and make your own retrofits but its more trouble than its worth. i ran hids without projectors for a bit and it was bright as fawk. light scatter tbh wasnt that bad. i guess it could help to aim them down a bit. like airjordan said some sylvania bulbs should do it Mainly was thinking HID only because they are getting so cheap that they ALMOST compete with the Silver Stars on price. And, I had Silver Stars on my ST1300 and wasn't real impressed.
OTiS Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 i had an 8000k kit when i had mine. i went back to halogen and can tell a huge diffrence in the two. if pple werent so anal about running them without projectors id still have them in mine.
DelSolSweetie Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 you can pick up new housings pretty cheap for a honda now.. you should look does anyone kno if purple hid's are illegal? lol technically they are but it depends on where you live if you'll get in much trouble I was going to do a white low and pink high or vice versa but the cops around here can be jerks about some things... WELL few months later there are a few with pink, few with purple, few with the yellow/amber, and a few with blue and they dont get messed with too much
badbash27 Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 Just thought I would add my two sense here because I have been looking into HIDs myself. Might I recommend these: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...RK%3AMEWAX%3AIT http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...RK%3AMEWAX%3AIT They aren't the cheapest, But I believe they are street legal because the housings are made for HID's. Don't quote me, but from looking at the pics, these just take the one HID and then a amber corner. I am assuming that one would use a double filament bulb for lows and highs. But I am speculating. Food for thought really. There always seems to be a debate about HID's and whether or not you should use them.
MChester Posted October 20, 2009 Author Posted October 20, 2009 Just thought I would add my two sense here because I have been looking into HIDs myself. Might I recommend these: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...RK%3AMEWAX%3AIT http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...RK%3AMEWAX%3AIT They aren't the cheapest, But I believe they are street legal because the housings are made for HID's. Don't quote me, but from looking at the pics, these just take the one HID and then a amber corner. I am assuming that one would use a double filament bulb for lows and highs. But I am speculating. Food for thought really. There always seems to be a debate about HID's and whether or not you should use them. Actually I emailed them and the lens assemblys they sell seperately for $88 that contain H4 bulbs are the the same as the ones they include in the sets with a low beam only HID for $148. So, apparently the lens assemblys are not made specifically for HIDs, they just package them together for your convenience. In any case, I've heard good things about the VVME brand including some testing by Motorcycle Consumer News magazine that I hold in high regard, so I think I'll give them a try in my ST1300 and on the Del Sol. Both are H4 Bi Xenon bulbs, so we'll see how this little experiment works out...
Stevotron5000 Posted October 20, 2009 Posted October 20, 2009 As I stated, that is my CONCERN, however I am looking for folks that have actually DONE this and KNOW the result, and aren't just presuming to know... Each vehicles reflector will act differently depending on its design. They aren't all the same. So, the question still stands... If any of you have actually done this, I'd like to hear your opinions... I know this is your CONCERN, however, i HAVE personally known MANY people who have actually DONE this and KNOW the result WITH del sol lamps, so that does not make it a PRESUMPTION. Do not PRESUME that I'm just GUESSING... LOUD NOISES! I'm just messin' with ya man, please don't get BUTTHURT about it
Orca89 Posted October 20, 2009 Posted October 20, 2009 Just thought I would add my two sense here because I have been looking into HIDs myself. Might I recommend these: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...RK%3AMEWAX%3AIT http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...RK%3AMEWAX%3AIT They aren't the cheapest, But I believe they are street legal because the housings are made for HID's. Don't quote me, but from looking at the pics, these just take the one HID and then a amber corner. I am assuming that one would use a double filament bulb for lows and highs. But I am speculating. Food for thought really. There always seems to be a debate about HID's and whether or not you should use them. I got burned when I tried to sell my set of supposedly HID lights that came with my car on here, the headlamps aren't actually equipped for HID's. It's just somebody scamming punks into buying normal headlamps with HID bulbs in them. HID's have projector lenses, and it's pretty easy to tell that those don't have them once you know what you're looking for. Anyway, my philosophy on HID's is they're great to be behind, and a royal pain to be in front. HID high beams matched to halogen lows sounds perfect though... then you only get completely blinded by the idiots on the roads. >_<
adamEj6 Posted October 20, 2009 Posted October 20, 2009 i have HID's in my stock housings on my 89 sedan. they dont blind anyone, since i adjusted them down and my lens' are way more fluted than the sol. if you wanna do it right, just retrofit some integra projectors in and get the bulbs for those. purple arent illegal where i live, i have one purple and one white since my other white burned out.
nobody Posted October 20, 2009 Posted October 20, 2009 i guess i gota figure out if its illegal in my area, dont wanna draw any unwanted atenttion from teh law...
badbash27 Posted October 20, 2009 Posted October 20, 2009 I am trying to get this straight. True HID's use projection lenses. This I know now. As far as the links to ebay that I posted before, these will work but wont be legal. right? And as far as anyone knows, there is no one out there making true ( legal ) HID kits for the del sol. right? thanks guys.
MChester Posted October 21, 2009 Author Posted October 21, 2009 I know this is your CONCERN, however, i HAVE personally known MANY people who have actually DONE this and KNOW the result WITH del sol lamps, so that does not make it a PRESUMPTION. Do not PRESUME that I'm just GUESSING... I'm just messin' with ya man, please don't get BUTTHURT about it Maybe next time you could, Oh I don't know, explain that in the first place instead of gett'in all worked up into a lather over noth'in because you gave a trite reply instead an explanation. About the whole backside hurt thing, that's just groce dude. But thanks for contributing.
MChester Posted October 21, 2009 Author Posted October 21, 2009 I am trying to get this straight. True HID's use projection lenses. This I know now. As far as the links to ebay that I posted before, these will work but wont be legal. right? And as far as anyone knows, there is no one out there making true ( legal ) HID kits for the del sol. right? thanks guys. The biggest difference between a regular H4 housing and one made for HIDs, is that the reflector on the HID housing is shaped such that there is a cut line above which there is very little light projected forward. That cut line is very obvious if you drive an HID equipped car up to your garage door. You'll see the clear cutoff point designed into the reflector. When you put an HID bulb into an H4 or any other halogen housing, you will project more light in all directions that reflector was designed to in the first place. So, not being familiar with the exact engineering of the Del Sol housing, I can't predict how bad the glare projected above the mid point of the housing will be. I am glad some on here have tried it and can confirm what they experienced. Personally, I think I'll try it, and worst comes to worst, I'll have to open up the headlight housing and modify the reflector. Not difficult to do, just time consuming and involves using my wifes oven to heat up the housings like I've done for several S2000 housings in the past. It stinks a little as the butyl heats up, but if I make sure she's not home I should be able to air out the place before she gets home...
Stevotron5000 Posted October 21, 2009 Posted October 21, 2009 Maybe next time you could, Oh I don't know, explain that in the first place instead of gett'in all worked up into a lather over noth'in because you gave a trite reply instead an explanation. About the whole backside hurt thing, that's just groce dude. But thanks for contributing. I was only lathering because you lathered first with your loud noises. and since you seemed to miss it last time, I've been joking with you, so it's best not to respond seriously. You're a bit stiff, dude, loosen up
Pballer2005 Posted October 21, 2009 Posted October 21, 2009 You're a bit stiff, dude, loosen up that's what she said the HID's i bought were around $100 shipped. I got some balasts from some place that was getting rid of a surplus so they were half off, and i got ghetto bulbs that have a regular HID bulb, and a little halgen bulb attached to the little post and i can switch between them with the hi/low switch. the kit originally has the low as the HID, but i switched it in case I get pulled over i can try and just tell him that i accidentally left my brights on and weasel my way out of a ticket. all of my friends ask me why my hid's seem brighter than theirs, i have 4300k, they all have 8000k+, so keep that in mind.
badbash27 Posted October 21, 2009 Posted October 21, 2009 that's what she said the HID's i bought were around $100 shipped. I got some balasts from some place that was getting rid of a surplus so they were half off, and i got ghetto bulbs that have a regular HID bulb, and a little halgen bulb attached to the little post and i can switch between them with the hi/low switch. the kit originally has the low as the HID, but i switched it in case I get pulled over i can try and just tell him that i accidentally left my brights on and weasel my way out of a ticket. all of my friends ask me why my hid's seem brighter than theirs, i have 4300k, they all have 8000k+, so keep that in mind. dear sir, you are brilliant! please post where you found such magical pieces of equipment.
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