reo4ua Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 Considering buying a 97 DS-S that from appearances has been very well taken care of. One owner and the guy swears it's never been painted (looks like new paint) and has one tiny rust bubble on the fender well. Can't produce maintenance records which concerns me for a 170k mileage vehicle. Just how hard are these motors to tear up? Owner claims motor has been maintained just as well as the exterior/interior of the car. New catalytic converter (does this mean burned valves??). Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpearce1974 Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 Considering buying a 97 DS-S that from appearances has been very well taken care of. One owner and the guy swears it's never been painted (looks like new paint) and has one tiny rust bubble on the fender well. Can't produce maintenance records which concerns me for a 170k mileage vehicle. Just how hard are these motors to tear up? Owner claims motor has been maintained just as well as the exterior/interior of the car. New catalytic converter (does this mean burned valves??). Thanks! New cat could be that it just started falling apart internally, or that its been blowing by oil and collecting in cat, and that took it out. Almost all Hondas with any real miles will use some oil. Mine with 163K uses a half a quart in 3000 miles. Which I consider livable! Any pics, condition of interior, area where Sol is, any work that he says has been done? Amount he is asking if you dont mind answering?? Ummm also do you mean 1.5 liter?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo4ua Posted August 30, 2009 Author Share Posted August 30, 2009 Asking $4k. Inside and out are super clean. I would bet a cleaner one would be very hard to find. You just never know about the engine and I've never owned a honda so I don't know what to expect. New cat could be that it just started falling apart internally, or that its been blowing by oil and collecting in cat, and that took it out. Almost all Hondas with any real miles will use some oil. Mine with 163K uses a half a quart in 3000 miles. Which I consider livable! Any pics, condition of interior, area where Sol is, any work that he says has been done? Amount he is asking if you dont mind answering?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpearce1974 Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 Asking $4k. Inside and out are super clean. I would bet a cleaner one would be very hard to find. You just never know about the engine and I've never owned a honda so I don't know what to expect. Is it a S, SI, or Vtec model?? You said its a 1.6, but then said it was a S model?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo4ua Posted August 30, 2009 Author Share Posted August 30, 2009 Is it a S, SI, or Vtec model?? You said its a 1.6, but then said it was a S model?? Carfax states it is an "S" model with the 1.6L non Vtec. 1997 model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpearce1974 Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 Carfax states it is an "S" model with the 1.6L non Vtec. 1997 model. http://www.hondaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=6768 HMMMMM...... I am thinking its a 1.5 liter. and not a 1.6?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo4ua Posted August 30, 2009 Author Share Posted August 30, 2009 http://www.hondaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=6768 HMMMMM...... I am thinking its a 1.5 liter. and not a 1.6?? I saw that. The same link also states at the bottom: NEW (from Spacemonkey71): The 96-97 "S" trim had a D16Y7 engine (Civic CX/DX/LX) I assume the D16 refers to a 1.6? Either way, just curious as to how much punishment they can take and still treat you right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airjordan223 Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 honda motors can last forever if taken care of properly. and the good thing, if the motor was beat on, its very inexpensive to swap a new one in. post up some pics of the car. also because there is rust on it, you want to inspect other areas of the car as well. check the trunk under the carpet, the wheel wells, underneath the car, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpearce1974 Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 honda motors can last forever if taken care of properly. and the good thing, if the motor was beat on, its very inexpensive to swap a new one in. post up some pics of the car. also because there is rust on it, you want to inspect other areas of the car as well. check the trunk under the carpet, the wheel wells, underneath the car, etc. Also look around the seat bolts going into floor for rust as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo4ua Posted August 30, 2009 Author Share Posted August 30, 2009 Thanks to both of you for taking the time to answer my questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpearce1974 Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 Thanks to both of you for taking the time to answer my questions. Oh and I know the people I got my Sol from beat on it, and I have taken good care of it, and I would still drive it coast to coast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orca89 Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 Sounds like a good deal to me, and Hondas tend to be very reliable. Buying it used, you will probably run into a problem or two that will have to be fixed, but it will likely be fairly easy and/or cheap to fix. As for the Cat, they don't die unless something kills them... Odds are it's guts just broke up, but I'd look at it after you take it for a longish drive, if it's glowing you've got a misfire or rich condition... But I find that rather unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallhamer88 Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 Good Deal. Cat is a cheap fix. Hell Most honda stuff that does break is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeryon Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 4k is a little steep on the price though. 4k isn't too high for your mileage if the car is in immaculate condition. Unfortunately, rust in the quarter panel is not immaculate condition. Honda vehicles tend to rust from the inside of the wheel well outward. If you can see the rust then it is probably spread all along the inside edge of the wheel well. Inspect it closely. Make sure you know what you are buying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATF Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 honda motors can last forever if taken care of properly. and the good thing, if the motor was beat on, its very inexpensive to swap a new one in. how much for a new motor airjordan???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airjordan223 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 depends on what you get. can be around 800 to 5000 check out hmotorsonline.com for engines or complete swaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpearce1974 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Or local Craigslist! $250-500 for good Z6! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo4ua Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 Obviously some rust but should I be worried? Undercarriage and trunk pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpearce1974 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Obviously some rust but should I be worried? Undercarriage and trunk pics I have no rust issues in my area, but that is minor compared to alot of them. If you get right on it and take care of it correctly, and under coat the shiit out of it! Any interior and more body shots? And engine shot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airjordan223 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 that rust doesnt appear to be too bad. but could be used as a bargaining deal on your end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo4ua Posted September 11, 2009 Author Share Posted September 11, 2009 Added pics of interior and exterior here. Ended up paying $3,600 for what appears to be an unmolested car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpearce1974 Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Added pics of interior and exterior here. Ended up paying $3,600 for what appears to be an unmolested car. Sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How you luvin it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_feze Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Fix the rust asap! i let mine go and now both sides are tore up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo4ua Posted September 13, 2009 Author Share Posted September 13, 2009 Fix the rust asap! i let mine go and now both sides are tore up! Need tips....who's had success and with what method? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpearce1974 Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Need tips....who's had success and with what method? Close up of said rust? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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