Sport Injection Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 The tow truck has to have somewhere to hook onto Brians car. He's Teins are bound to give him a false sense of confidence, and he'll be in the gravel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelSolSweetie Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 or something will happen while hes racing and he'll end up in a ditch so yes brian should have tow hooks.. and little orange arrows pointing to it so the tow truck knows where to hook up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airjordan223 Posted August 13, 2009 Author Share Posted August 13, 2009 mad EDM tite yo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelSolSweetie Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 all the road course cars had to have arrows pointing to their tow hooks.. at least the non street legal race cars.. its only cool if you have like 400+ hp and race Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airjordan223 Posted August 13, 2009 Author Share Posted August 13, 2009 all the road course cars had to have arrows pointing to their tow hooks.. at least the non street legal race cars.. its only cool if you have like 400+ hp and race i heart you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrIaN EG2 Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 or something will happen while hes racing and he'll end up in a ditch so yes brian should have tow hooks.. and little orange arrows pointing to it so the tow truck knows where to hook up i actually plan on tracking my car after i boost and convert the sol for E85.. so anyways :- oh and yes, ill have the little arrows as well :effyou: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orca89 Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 i actually plan on tracking my car after i boost and convert the sol for E85.. so anyways :- ... Why on earth would you want to convert to E85? If you do it right, just to start you'd need a new fuel tank, all new fuel lines, higher flow fuel pump and injectors, and new piston rings. You'll have to do a really good tuning job to make up for the lower energy content of ethanol (1 gallon of gasoline = 14.7 sticks of dynamite, ethanol is maybe 12). Sure, you're getting 96 octane fuel for $0.50 cheaper than 87, but you'll only get 3/4 as far. There goes a good bit of your savings at the pump. Only thing worse for cars than ethanol in recent history is OBD3. California has it, which means we'll probably be stuck with it sometime in the not too distant future... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelSolSweetie Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 i actually plan on tracking my car after i boost and convert the sol for E85.. so anyways :- oh and yes, ill have the little arrows as well :effyou: ill be 50% nicer to you if you convert to E85 and ill have to have the arrows on my car too so its okay ... Why on earth would you want to convert to E85? because its more 'eco friendly' it would be really badass if he did a hybrid sol http://green.autoblog.com/2008/11/06/sema-...hot-rod-hybrid/ ^check that out they were at the race this past weekend (road course not dragstrip) and they were doing extremely well.. he can do an entire session using no fuel.. they were not the fastest but put out some great times.. only thing they had a problem with is the plastic OVER the battery caught on fire cause it got hot the car's sparco seats are even made from the extra fabric scraps from making other seats.. ill try and upload more pics on chris's pos computer later lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airjordan223 Posted August 13, 2009 Author Share Posted August 13, 2009 E85 is not as eco friendly as you think. the fuel itself is good, but the process of making it and getting it here is not "green" Keep nominating guys, final three will be announced Saturday night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lceah Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 E85 is not as eco friendly as you think. the fuel itself is good, but the process of making it and getting it here is not "green" +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orca89 Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 E85 is not as eco friendly as you think. the fuel itself is good, but the process of making it and getting it here is not "green" Keep nominating guys, final three will be announced Saturday night +1000 Ethanol makes a tiny dent in what your car puts into the atmosphere. La-de-fricking-da. The whole greenhouse effect is no longer a scientific theory, it's something for idiotic politicians to latch onto and use as an excuse to make us miserable. The scientists who originally "discovered" the problem also realized that WE AREN'T CAUSING IT(maybe it was a different group of scientists, but whatever). We're contributing, sure, but it's not something we've done(http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/). The sun has it's hot flashes (sorry, couldn't resist), and it gets cooler every now and then too. Sure, lowering how much pollution we put out is a good thing, but ethanol isn't a good way to do it. And on the subject of hybrids.... They're actually killing the environment faster than a Hummer will. The raw materials for the batteries in hybrids are mined in Canada, creating a fair bit of pollution. They are then shipped to China, on ships that run on USED MOTOR OIL. Gee, how much pollution do you think they put out? The battery cells are then shipped to Japan to be assembled into the actual battery packs, which are then shipped all the way back to the US. A Hummer on the other hand, sure a lot of pollution comes out of the tail pipe and it gets horrible gas mileage, but because of the horrible gas mileage you probably won't be driving it as far as often. The prius is the car for people who want others to see the good works they're doing anonymously. The ONLY reason to buy a Prius is if you want a small Toyota hatchback that gets good mileage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelSolSweetie Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 E85 is not as eco friendly as you think. the fuel itself is good, but the process of making it and getting it here is not "green" kinda why it looked like this: 'eco friendly' and not eco friendly but even if every put a small dent in what they produce it would turn out to be a huge number i dislike people who are all for not trying.. i think its lazy.. i think its a great idea to explore alternative energy sources and it wont be great everytime yah e85 may not be the greatest thing but its a step towards renewable energy just like solar power is a good idea.. but you have to have SO many panels wind power is also great.. but can be an eyesore for some people and you need a LOT of room to do it and not all regions are suited for it and yes the earth heats up and cools down in cycles.. BUT with the amount of pollution we are putting into the air its heating up a lot more and its not good but you can't change peoples minds who believe nothing is going on out of the normal oh and im not miserable.. i dont see how trying to reduce emissions and recycling makes me miserable... only lazy people who dont give a crap about where they live could be miserable because they have to take care of their land orca.. you seem to have a lot of the first half and not the other.. like the earth heats up.. yes it does.. but you fail to see that it is heating up A LOT more then in the past.. americas is one of the worst pollutors.. its ridiculous.. and the reason for it is because people here like their gas guzzling vehicles and are too lazy to change things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orca89 Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 kinda why it looked like this: 'eco friendly' and not eco friendly but even if every put a small dent in what they produce it would turn out to be a huge number i dislike people who are all for not trying.. i think its lazy.. i think its a great idea to explore alternative energy sources and it wont be great everytime yah e85 may not be the greatest thing but its a step towards renewable energy just like solar power is a good idea.. but you have to have SO many panels wind power is also great.. but can be an eyesore for some people and you need a LOT of room to do it and not all regions are suited for it Trying is good, I have no problem with catalytic converters, the PCV system, etc. And yes, E85 is a step in the right direction, but that doesn't make it actually good. I agree we need renewable energy, especially if we can lessen our dependence on foreign oil. The problem is coming up with an effective one that isn't harmful to the vehicle. Hydrogen fuel cells are a far better step than E85 is. If I was in California, I'd buy an FCX Clarity as my DD... Assuming I could afford it of course. and yes the earth heats up and cools down in cycles.. BUT with the amount of pollution we are putting into the air its heating up a lot more and its not good "The potential planetary warming from a doubling of atmospheric carbon dioxide from pre-Industrial Revolution levels of ~280ppmv to 560ppmv (possible some time later this century - perhaps) is generally estimated at around 1 °C." " Well, why is the planet warming so catastrophically if it's not CO2 then? Who says it is warming catastrophically? Humans have only been trying to measure the temperature fairly consistently since about 1880, during which time we think the world may have warmed by about +0.6 °C ± 0.2 °C. As we've already pointed out, the estimate of warming is less than the error margin on our ability to take the Earth's temperature, generally given as 14 °C ± 0.7 °C for the average 1961-1990 while the National Climatic Data Center (NCDC) suggest 13.9 °C for their average 1880-2004. We are pretty sure it was cold before the 1880 commencement of record and we would probably not handle the situation too well if such conditions returned but there has been no demonstrable catastrophic warming while people have been trying to measure the planet's temperature." Sarah, read through this website before you get on your high horse. Human contribution to the CO2 in the atmosphere per year is about 3.4% In other words, E85 isn't going to make a large enough dent in our pollution output to be noticeable when compared to the overall CO2 output of the earth. If every car on the planet converted to E85, we might see our contribution drop to 3.3999% but you can't change peoples minds who believe nothing is going on out of the normal oh and im not miserable.. i dont see how trying to reduce emissions and recycling makes me miserable... only lazy people who dont give a crap about where they live could be miserable because they have to take care of their land For the most part, there is nothing going on out of the normal. Anything we can do to the atmosphere will largely be local, like LA's smog. In big cities, stuff like this can make a difference. For those of us not living with thousands of people within a mile of us, it's not a big deal. Recycling is another matter altogether. Recycling actually does make a noticeable difference, landfills are a necessary evil and the less we rely on them, the better. orca.. you seem to have a lot of the first half and not the other.. like the earth heats up.. yes it does.. but you fail to see that it is heating up A LOT more then in the past.. At most the earths average temperature has risen by about a degree since the Industrial Revolution! That's 130 years. In the next 130 years, we'll probably have cold-fusion powered cars. We could use what comes out of the tailpipe to fill our balloons. (joking of course, since a cold fusion reactor wouldn't have a tailpipe) americas is one of the worst pollutors.. its ridiculous.. and the reason for it is because people here like their gas guzzling vehicles and are too lazy to change things I agree that we're one of the worst polluters, and americans are largely lazy idiots who don't want to work and take everything at face value. Unfortunately, all of us do that at some point. After all, look who we elected as our president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelSolSweetie Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 we are actually on the same page about a lot of the stuff BUT the temp thing.. the water temp is the big thing.. because the water holds heat so well even a slight change isnt good no one can deny the artic ice IS melting (poor polar bears) and will the more ice that melts there is more water to asborb heat melting it more.. melting all that ice isnt good either it really depends on what you read from where on who says what.. things funded from oil companies are probably going to lean more towards 'oh its just natural heating and cooling'.. well yes.. the earth naturally heats and cools.. but hasnt heated up this much at this rate.. well ever.. while someone pushing for big results asap is going to make it look like the earth is ending tomorrow because of global warming i did a lot of research for a project on global warming and read a good amount about the ice melting and what not and have seen multiple times in multiple papers that with the ice melting the ocean will rise.. aka a lot of people are going to be under water.. its like if ice cubes are IN a glass of water and melt.. nothing happens.. if you ADD ice cubes to a already full cup it overflows.. some of the ice is above the ocean and some is in it.. so some wont effect it and some will.. there are some shelf's that would be really bad if they fell in oh and they have temp readings from further back then that.. they figured out a way to get core samples from like the artic and somehow they can tell from the frozen particles how many degrees the earth temp fell/rose over a long period of time basically we are bringing an ice age on ourselves.. the earth is heating up a lot more then normal which means its probably going to go into a much larger cooling phase watch it happen about the time i FINALLY get a/c on my car.. then my heater will break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrIaN EG2 Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 gahh look what i started... i heard that E85 burns at 109 octane and was thinking about it.. i want to be different and do my own thing, hybrid boosted B18C1 del sol... sounds pretty different right? im looking into it now.. a friend of mine is converting his evo to E85 so ill see how he runs to determine my decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lceah Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 no one can deny the artic ice IS melting (poor polar bears) and will the more ice that melts there is more water to asborb heat melting it more.. melting all that ice isnt good either uh, read about this or ask your chemistry or physics teacher about this and they can explain to you that it's just different states of the same water! Don't believe everything they try to feed our brains! Scott, I agree! And this president is such a moldable cookie dough lol 1) he copies Spain and creates "green" jobs when the CLEAR result Spain got was that "for every 'green' job, 2.2 regular jobs are lost." Unemployment rate going down.....ay! 2) he is trying to mess with health care or "health insurance" when all he has to do is learn from some smart corporations out there and just change the current regulations and bs. I didn't vote for him and never will!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orca89 Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 When ice melts it actually gets smaller... If the arctic ice cap works the way icebergs do(I kinda doubt it, but it's possible *shrugs*) then what's under the ocean surface + 9% could melt and nothing would happen. However, since most of what's melting would probably be what's above sea level... Ok, we might see the sea level rise a few millimeters. Global temperatures would have to rise a good bit before we'd see any global problems. We might lose the Outer Banks and Ocean City though... Brian, E85 is 96 octane. Hybrid sounds like fun though. As I mentioned before, it doesn't do anywhere near as much for the environment as people think, but hooked up to an engine that actually has some power... w00t Hmmm... I wonder where that website of the hybrid Nissan Sentra was... Hybrid sports cars FTW. And on the subject of Obama... he's basically going to ruin things for those of us who are actually willing to work hard in order to save those who think they need a 50" plasma tv when they can't afford their rent. His health plan... "New York, New Jersey and Massachusetts have both community rating and guaranteed issue. And, no surprise, they have the three most expensive individual insurance markets among all 50 states, with premiums roughly two to three times higher than the rest of the country. In 2007, the average annual premium in New Jersey was $5,326 for singles and in New York $12,254 for a family, versus the national average of $2,613 and $5,799, respectively. ObamaCare would impose New York-type rates nationwide." - The Truth About Health Insurance :nono: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lceah Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 ^+1 big time also: http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB1000...MTExNDEyWj.html Obama should learn from Whole Foods I want more freedom for people and less of government-trying-to-control-every-single-thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orca89 Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 ^+1 big time also: http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB1000...MTExNDEyWj.html Obama should learn from Whole Foods I want more freedom for people and less of government-trying-to-control-every-single-thing! I agree. It's unfortunate... but the government has gotten too big for it's britches. The problem is they want to control everything, and some people want them to. And most of the rest of us are just too lazy to do anything about it. And, of course, the new American dream is to sue somebody for millions of dollars so you can retire early and sit around bored out of your mind for the rest of your life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lceah Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 ^so true... Hard-working people (like me) to keep getting taxed more to support the lazy...Socialism!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orca89 Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 ^so true... Hard-working people (like me) to keep getting taxed more to support the lazy...Socialism!! Indeed. Sadly, I'm not all that hard-working at the moment (been searching for a job for almost a year now, think I've finally got one though...), but I've been living off of school loans, rather than unemployment. We should really move this discussion into it's own thread... We've used a full page of ROTM talking about how stupid our country is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airjordan223 Posted August 14, 2009 Author Share Posted August 14, 2009 you know what is good for the environment? The ROTM thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lceah Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 congrats on the job yay! LOL we are waiting for this thread to get closed so we can vote in another... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airjordan223 Posted August 14, 2009 Author Share Posted August 14, 2009 well im waiting for more nominations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s_adbell Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 give it up, lets vote already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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