89turboteg Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 Just a little about my car. Had it since 2000. Did all the work myself. Exterior SE painted moldings Painted mirrors Painted mudflaps Clear front bumper lights with integrated HID fog light H4 Headlight conversion with HID's Custom rear taillights (2 choices available and stock) Front bumper grill and license plate holes filled. Brakes Power slot front and rear cross drilled rotors Axxis metal master front and rear brake pads Goodridge SS brake hoses Powdercoated calipers, caliper brackets and dust shields Suspension Tokico Illumina 5 way adj shocks Tokico rear springs Lightspeed torsion bars Suspension Techniques front and rear sway Greddy front strut tower bar Engine 1989 D16A1 with A/C JG bored throttle body JG cams JG pro-series head JG stainless steel valves JG valve springs AEM adj. Cam gears Polished valve cover Arias 8.5:1 overbored turbo pistons Shotpeened and balanced rods 2 inch intercooler piping Modified and polished Starion FMIC Rev-Hard cast iron manifold Turbonetics T3/T4 turbo (polished) 2 -1/2 inch downpipe Turbonetics deltagate 7psi spring Turbo XS type RFL blow-off valve Bell Eng. Group boost dependant FPR Pierberg Fuel Pump RC engineering 320cc injectors Cometic MLS head gasket ARP head studs Custom 3 inch cold air intake with cold air duct from under car Custom 2 1/2 inch exhaust MSD 6BTM Direct Port NOS kit with bottle heater and purge New radiator with high flow fans Gauges SPI boost SPI water temp Greddy EGT Air fuel ratio Fuel injector pulse width Transmission 89 integra tranny ACT clutch Lightened flywheel Unfortunately may have to sell it soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pballer2005 Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 long list of stuff. not really feeling the rims, euro lights, or wing but those are easy to fix. are you making that much power with spray? not sure why you got such low cr on a stock block. the car has a lot of potential. looks like it wouldn't take very much at all to make it pretty nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lceah Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 welcome nice list! I'll see pictures later... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastigir Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 long list of stuff. not really feeling the rims, euro lights, or wing but those are easy to fix. are you making that much power with spray? not sure why you got such low cr on a stock block. the car has a lot of potential. looks like it wouldn't take very much at all to make it pretty nice Lower CR equals more boost, be it turbo or spray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lceah Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 ^ya... nice pictures! I like 1st gen. Integras Aren't you afraid that if you get pulled over for any reason, the cop will see the spray in the back seat?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pballer2005 Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 Lower CR equals more boost, be it turbo or spray. yeah i know that, but wouldn't you have to make more boost just to get the same power? i know it reduces knock but it seems to me like there are cheaper/better alternatives to reducing that without spending money on internals, or so i thought. that's kinda what i was getting at in that other thread: higher cr requires less boost to make power, meaning less spool time, more tq, and an overall more efficient setup. do people run low cr just to be safe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastigir Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 yeah i know that, but wouldn't you have to make more boost just to get the same power? i know it reduces knock but it seems to me like there are cheaper/better alternatives to reducing that without spending money on internals, or so i thought. that's kinda what i was getting at in that other thread: higher cr requires less boost to make power, meaning less spool time, more tq, and an overall more efficient setup. do people run low cr just to be safe? Because you can make more power by adding more boost, than by having a higher CR...I know I said it backwards in the other thread. Not to mention, he's running a turbo *and* spray. The more air and fuel you can cram into a cylinder, the more power it will make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lceah Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 ^but to a point! You can't just add as much as you feel like and think it will be ok...detonation is one...overheating is another...bunch of other things... I personally wouldn't mess with NOS...it's too dangerous for the engine, in my opinion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastigir Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 ^but to a point! You can't just add as much as you feel like and think it will be ok...detonation is one...overheating is another...bunch of other things... I personally wouldn't mess with NOS...it's too dangerous for the engine, in my opinion! You can add as much fuel as you want as long as you do the proper tuning. Infact more fuel is better, as richer equals safer. Detonation and engine temps go hand in hand. Both are caused by lean conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannaBstuntin Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 Can't read wall'o'text, but welcome anyways! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrIaN EG2 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 welcome to the forums man long list of stuff. not really feeling the rims, euro lights, or wing but those are easy to fix. ^ +1 im not really feeling the wheels, tail lights, or the wing either... stock tails, no wing, and blades would make your teg look SICK!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lceah Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Rob, running rich can cause detonation too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastigir Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Rob, running rich can cause detonation too! No, running rich can cause cylinder wash, which is a whole different problem. Do you know what detonation is? EDIT: Apparently, extremely rich AFR, like less than 10:1 can cause knock, but it's still rare. If anyone is tuning their car to run richer than 10:1, they deserve to blow their engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pballer2005 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Because you can make more power by adding more boost, than by having a higher CR...I know I said it backwards in the other thread. Not to mention, he's running a turbo *and* spray. The more air and fuel you can cram into a cylinder, the more power it will make. Yeah i guess that's true. It's just that I've always thought that it would be a more efficient setup to have a point or 2 higher cr and run slightly less boost than running way more boost and lowering cr a couple points. i've been told that a high cr, lower boost engine will spool much faster and have broader torque curve, where as something like a vitara low cr setup will have a high peak hp/tq but because of that you have to wait for that power to really come on, this is all based on the assumption that you have a very good tune. i mean personally if this really is the case i would prefer a dd to have a better hp/tq curve and run something like water/meth injection to make up for the high ping probability with the higher cr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lceah Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Rob, this is a good description I go by... What is detonation: Detonation occurs in the combustion process when the advancing flame front, which is pressurizing and heating the unburned mixture ahead of it, does so at such a rate that unburned fuel in that zone achieves its auto-ignition temperature before the arrival of the actual flame front. The result is that the unburned mixture combusts "spontaneously" and over the entire zone where the auto-ignition temperature has been achieved. The apparent flame speed in this zone is many orders of magnitude faster than that in conventional combustion initiated by a normal flame front, with the result that the local rise of pressure and temperature is significantly sharp. This produces the characteristic "knocking" or "pinking" sound, and the local mechanical devastation that this can produce on piston crown or cylinder head can be considerable. Actually, "knocking" is the correct terminology for what is a really a detonation behavior over a small portion of the combustion charge. A true detonation process would be one occurring over the entire compressed charge. However, because detonation in this strictly defined sense does not take place in the spark-ignition engine, the words "knocking" and "detonation" are used interchangeably in the literature, without loss of meaning, to describe the effects just discussed. And yes, it's rare that running rich will cause it...I agree...it's just that it can happen... EDIT: sorry for thread jack... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastigir Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Yeah i guess that's true. It's just that I've always thought that it would be a more efficient setup to have a point or 2 higher cr and run slightly less boost than running way more boost and lowering cr a couple points. i've been told that a high cr, lower boost engine will spool much faster and have broader torque curve, where as something like a vitara low cr setup will have a high peak hp/tq but because of that you have to wait for that power to really come on, this is all based on the assumption that you have a very good tune. i mean personally if this really is the case i would prefer a dd to have a better hp/tq curve and run something like water/meth injection to make up for the high ping probability with the higher cr. I actually tested this theory last night with zealautowerks CR calculator. I used a 9.3 CR, and with 14 psi of boost...the effective CR was 18.5 or so. Using a 10.8 CR, with the same boost only raised the effective CR to 19.5 or so. I went back to a 9.3 CR, and added 20 psi of boost and the effective CR shot up to 22.5. Obviously, cramming more air in is more effective than increasing CR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lceah Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 ^gotcha...then all that air gets scary...lean is scary...hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastigir Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 ^gotcha...then all that air gets scary...lean is scary...hehe Which is why you add more fuel, however, the leaner you can run...the more power you can make. I'll let you know how it turns out when I'm running 20 pounds at a nice 14.7:1 AFR (hopefully). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pballer2005 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 I actually tested this theory last night with zealautowerks CR calculator. I used a 9.3 CR, and with 14 psi of boost...the effective CR was 18.5 or so. Using a 10.8 CR, with the same boost only raised the effective CR to 19.5 or so. I went back to a 9.3 CR, and added 20 psi of boost and the effective CR shot up to 22.5. Obviously, cramming more air in is more effective than increasing CR. ah i see. in that case, moar boost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lceah Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 can't wait for the Talon, Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrIaN EG2 Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 well looks like he's just like the rest of them... post once and never come back, oh well his loss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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