Shanebot90 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 What do you guys think about the National Guard? I'm seriously contemplating joining them. I'd go out for a weekend every month, and a 2 week period each year. I can keep going to college and they pay for my tuition/books (big plus). I get the sign on bonus. I can keep my part time job I have now and still get payed from both places. My parent's are kind of against it though (seeing as how I'm the only child). I don't think my chances are too high for being deployed now that Obama's going to be president either. What do you guys and gals think? Should I try and earn some stripes? My other thought is maybe joining the police force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondahunter Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Exchange the sign-on bonus with earning the title of Marine. Marine Corps Reserve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRG7 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I vote neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanebot90 Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2008 for why, if i may ask? with that sign on bonus i can probably finally pay for my SR20DET ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hondahunter Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I vote neither. i notice you say this a lot. reason? for why, if i may ask? with that sign on bonus i can probably finally pay for my SR20DET ;) because it's the world's premier fighting force. they're given the task of protecting the President before anyone else. Land, Air, and Sea. It's a full military in one branch. go in the Army, they call you Soldier from day one. go in the Marines, you don't get called Marine until your 13 weeks are over. longer, tougher training. I'm psyched Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRG7 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 for why, if i may ask? with that sign on bonus i can probably finally pay for my SR20DET ;) For many reasons. Seriously? An engine is worth signing your life over for? All you ever hear kids anymore talk about is how the sign-on bonus can pay for this-or-that... it's sickening, and is now yet another reason to be added to my list of dislikes when it comes to all things military Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanebot90 Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2008 noononononoo, i doubt i would even spend my sign on bonus, and would probably invest it into something tbh, but it's more of me wanting to do something with my life that is a bit more fulfilling. Thinking about a future where all I would do for a living is working some 9-5 job or being stuck in a cubicle all day is just sickening. I want to do something that i can be proud of. Here's another option Airforce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondahunter Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I think you're making a good choice joining the military man. You'll better yourself and like you said, do something fulfilling. You'll appreciate this place even more, and even with the problems realize what this country means to you. Airforce I won't join because basic is like no challenge for me. 5 weels of sitting in a chair, 1 of physical training. Hence Chair Force. Military is a good decision, I like the Marines because they're the first in and it's the toughest of the 4 (real) branches of the Military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex37211 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 For many reasons. Seriously? An engine is worth signing your life over for? All you ever hear kids anymore talk about is how the sign-on bonus can pay for this-or-that... it's sickening, and is now yet another reason to be added to my list of dislikes when it comes to all things military That's americans in general. Most ppl think about what they can have now and don't consider anything past 6 months, or even a couple months in some cases. I've sold an expedition where the chick was filling out the forms and signing papers whilst never having asked the price of the vehicle! All she was concerned with was the down payment and monthly payment. I could have written ANYTHING on that bill of sale. Incidentally, it was 15,000 dollars. I mentioned it and she was like "whatever...". 4 months later, she got repo'd. She lost almost $4000 because she couldn't plan ahead. Screw joining the military. That's for ppl who have no other options or ideas. It's a cop-out. But some ppl need it. Those are the ppl the military thrive on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrodh Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Two things to comment. Some people are "built" for the military some are not. You need to decide this yourself. And second. DO NOT go into the armed forces for the money. I've known a few soldiers in various branches and they all take out loans for cars, and come back home broke as hell just like the next civilian so its not like your going to be an instant rich guy or anything. So this shouldnt be a reason to join. If your going to join it should be because YOU want to serve your country in that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannaBstuntin Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 That's americans in general. Most ppl think about what they can have now and don't consider anything past 6 months, or even a couple months in some cases. I've sold an expedition where the chick was filling out the forms and signing papers whilst never having asked the price of the vehicle! All she was concerned with was the down payment and monthly payment. I could have written ANYTHING on that bill of sale. Incidentally, it was 15,000 dollars. I mentioned it and she was like "whatever...". 4 months later, she got repo'd. She lost almost $4000 because she couldn't plan ahead. Screw joining the military. That's for ppl who have no other options or ideas. It's a cop-out. But some ppl need it. Those are the ppl the military thrive on. +octodecillion ...yes, that's a real number Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondahunter Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Screw joining the military. That's for ppl who have no other options or ideas. It's a cop-out. This makes me sick to my stomach. It's like flipping the bird to every that's given you the right to not wake up in a craphole. One of my favorite quotes is so true America is not at war. America's at the mall. The Marine Corps is at war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannaBstuntin Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 This makes me sick to my stomach. It's like flipping the bird to every that's given you the right to not wake up in a craphole. One of my favorite quotes is so true America is not at war. America's at the mall. The Marine Corps is at war. ...and *most* of the marine corps is at war just so that they can go to the mall when they get back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrodh Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 This makes me sick to my stomach. It's like flipping the bird to every that's given you the right to not wake up in a craphole. One of my favorite quotes is so true America is not at war. America's at the mall. The Marine Corps is at war. Im not pro/anti war nor against our troops or anything. I respect them for what they do for us and what freedoms we have (that must be fought for). However that quote is offensive towards us Civilians/etc. as what Alex said about the armed forces. Doesn't make you much better !? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondahunter Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 ...and *most* of the marine corps is at war just so that they can go to the mall when they get back ? Im not pro/anti war nor against our troops or anything. I respect them for what they do for us and what freedoms we have (that must be fought for). However that quote is offensive towards us Civilians/etc. as what Alex said about the armed forces. Doesn't make you much better !? i am a civilian, i'm not in. i mean it towards myself too! i don't wake up every morning and wonder if the next kid i see has a bomb strapped to his chest. i respect the hell out of people that do that and i think it's shiity that people sit back and complain about what's happening with everything but knock the military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannaBstuntin Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Honestly, do you think we'd have even half as many people in the military if there were no signing bonuses? I respect the people that really want to join the military and have their hearts set on it. But when someone says "do something with my life" or "serve my country"...what exactly does that even mean? You can do that at any time or place. You don't have to be in the military to do something with your life or help your country. Most of the military is kids who just graduated high school (or didn't), and have honestly no idea what they want. Instant money sounds pretty good to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondahunter Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 if you're talking about sign-on bonuses, don't include the Marines. they have yet to offer me one, and if approx 12k a year is great money, i must have higher expectations than most. i'd join the military if i didn't get paid TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannaBstuntin Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 if you're talking about sign-on bonuses, don't include the Marines.they have yet to offer me one, and if approx 12k a year is great money, i must have higher expectations than most. i'd join the military if i didn't get paid TBH. Well then you're the kind of person who should join the military TBH. And I really do mean that as a compliment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondahunter Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Well then you're the kind of person who should join the military TBH. And I really do mean that as a compliment. ty. didn't mean to be an a$$ i just don't think a lot of ppl appreciate what is done for them (not directed towards you or anyone imparticular). i agree that a lot of patriotism is gone from it. one of the most impressive things in history to me is back during the world wars when actors put their careers on hold to join the military. that doesn't happen anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubbith Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 i agree that a lot of patriotism is gone from it. one of the most impressive things in history to me is back during the world wars when actors put their careers on hold to join the military. that doesn't happen anymore. Thats b/c 98% of Hollywood is a bunch of anti-American libtards that would like to see nothing more than to turn the US into a slocialist's wetdream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C92hatchX Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 thats awsome man!, )not being a weiner cause i have no room to talk cause im not joining anything cause im not cut out for it), BUT try the marines i have some friends in there and its only a couple weeks extra and the tranning is so much more worth it, BUT my buddy in national just got sent to iraq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRG7 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Honestly, do you think we'd have even half as many people in the military if there were no signing bonuses? ... Most of the military is kids who just graduated high school (or didn't), and have honestly no idea what they want. Instant money sounds pretty good to them. Exactly. The military preys on kids who can't afford to go to college and/or aren't sure what they want to do with their lives. Coming from a small town, where everyone just wants to "get out", I'd say a good majority of the males who graduated from my high school (in all graduating classes, not just mine) went into one branch of the military or another simply because they didn't feel they had any other options and money wasn't falling out of trees. American's want a "quick buck", but so many of them don't understand that you're signing your life over to someone else for that money. The money is the #1 worst reason to go into the military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick B. Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 im for the military, but i have to agree with ashley. not many people really do the proper research into the military before joining and alot of them end up regretting that decision. if you do decide to join, find a good technical job, or one that is in high demand in the civilian world that way you can get your free training and make something of yourself. Dont just go for the big sign on bonus and end up with a job that does nothing for you on the outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orca89 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I dunno about the military, honestly. It's a good institution for those looking to break bad habits, develop better work ethic, etc. That's part of the reason I've been hemming and hawing about joining for years. One of my friends actually joined the Navy earlier this year, and for her... Well, let's just say she desperately needed something like that to help her get her act together. Some people are well-suited to the military, and some need the structure it provides to help them figure themselves out. Honestly, if I were to join, I'd probably go Air Force or Army. More likely army, 'cause there I could fly one of the predator drones. Air force... well, I'd probably need Lasik before they even let me get in the cockpit. As for what CRG and Wannabstuntin have brought up... well, Do your research before you decide. I'm not entirely sure which they're ranting about, Americans in general or the actual military... But the armed forces are responding largely to a lack of patriotism in this country. As for the public... well, Americans have become apathetic. Not to mention maleable... I'm not sure anyone didn't want to chase down those responsible for 9/11 after it happened. Now everyone's blaming Bush and the government for doing it! Americans are bloody stupid, they get their cake, eat it, and then complain about the stomach ache. Then the media comes along and "Oh, it was a bad idea, we never should have done it, it's all Bush's fault." Bah. Bush wasn't necessarily a great president, but he's nowhere near as bad as everybody makes him out to be. He's a scapegoat, as is the military. Anyway, now that I've rambled on about I don't even know what.. Whatever you choose, stick with it. The Marines will tear you apart and then put you back together. The Army will build you up while instilling discipline. As for the Air Force and Navy... I'm not really sure. Any branch will provide a valuable experience, and you'll benefit. Good Luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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