zachary.guy.jordan Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 okay guys i need some help i have a bascially stock d16 series with some bolt ons nothing serious i want to swap out for a gsr i know i will need stage two axels and i will need a new tranny but for my computer someone told me that i can remap it rather then pulling everything out and replacing it and is there anyway to save my heater and other creature comforts in the car im on a tight budget at the time but i want to pick up this gsr block and b16 head give me some answers if you can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastresort576 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 you dont need stage 2 axels, idk what they tbh. you just need stock b-series axels, motor mount, and engine wire harness would be ideal along with a p72 ecu. but you can always use your existing engine harness and add knock sensor, and the butterflys(forget the actual name..) and if you dont get a p72 you can have your p28 chipped and a basemap installed on it...but for the cost of that itll be cheaper to find yourself a p72 ecu...oh yea you need a B-series trans(not a prelude one.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zachary.guy.jordan Posted December 4, 2008 Author Share Posted December 4, 2008 so with the b series tranny and axels it should hold together and what year has the p72 ecu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastresort576 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 so with the b series tranny and axels it should hold together and what year has the p72 ecu 94-95...a stock engine is fine with stock parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zachary.guy.jordan Posted December 4, 2008 Author Share Posted December 4, 2008 alright so should i take this guys gsr block and b16 head and build off that or should i just wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastresort576 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 alright so should i take this guys gsr block and b16 head and build off that or should i just wait as long as everything is in good shape. and get the p30 ecu instead of the p72. i thought it was originally a gsr engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex37211 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 okay guys i need some help i have a bascially stock d16 series with some bolt ons nothing serious i want to swap out for a gsr i know i will need stage two axels and i will need a new tranny but for my computer someone told me that i can remap it rather then pulling everything out and replacing it and is there anyway to save my heater and other creature comforts in the car im on a tight budget at the time but i want to pick up this gsr block and b16 head give me some answers if you can stock 94-01 integra axles (as stated). replacing an ecu is easier than having it chipped. Plus you can always sell it for what you paid if you just look for a deal. I paid $125 I think for my obd1 (95-95) P72 (GSR) ecu. And if you're running a b16 head, you need the ecu for that. The heater core will not be effected. You will still have heat. A/C could be another story. You may need a specific ac bracket (del sol). butterfly things = iab's (intake air butterflies) But they are not found on the b16 intake manifold so...one less thing to wire! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 You're going to need to get it tuned no matter what ECU you use. B16 head never came on a GSR block so there is not ECU that will run it correctly. You'd be better off putting the money into the D16. For the same amount of money you'll have into the swap the D will light it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zachary.guy.jordan Posted December 8, 2008 Author Share Posted December 8, 2008 well edelbrock offers a turbo charger for my d16 if i get that and run it at about 6 or 7 psi i can still run the stock internals or what should i do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Yes, the Edelbrock kit is safe for a stock engine that runs good. It is a true bolt on kit with no tuning needed (unless you get the race version). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondahunter Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Yes, the Edelbrock kit is safe for a stock engine that runs good. It is a true bolt on kit with no tuning needed (unless you get the race version). really? do they make something like this for the b-series? and approx how much hp increase? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Yep. Not sure on the power, been a couple years since I looked into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondahunter Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Yep. Not sure on the power, been a couple years since I looked into it. damn. why doesn't it require a retune? that's insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostedflake Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 it does not require tuning because it comes with the necessary electronics for the fuel and ignition tables. http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/partdetail...urbo_Kits//6167 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zachary.guy.jordan Posted December 15, 2008 Author Share Posted December 15, 2008 fill me in the website says this at the bottom of the page 1996-98 model year Civics running #1500 turbo kit require the use of a MAP sensor voltage clamp #15022 for proper MAP sensor operation. This is not supplied with the kit but is available through our technical department. mine is a 97 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IVhorsemenmotorsports Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 either way you go swap or turbo it would be a fun experience... i'm a hugh sohc guy but i do build and swap b,k,h,f, and c series engines. what are you looking for as far as power.. what do you want the car to do...drag...autocross...street car...etc. I think if i read your post right you have a 96 and newer civic. if so a gsr swap or gsr block and b16 head would be a pretty straight forward swap.. just get all the parts needed like the axles, shift linkage, ecu..etc. the ecu i suggest you get would be the p72 if you don't plan on getting hondata or some form of management.. why not invest that money in sohc.... let me know what you plan on doing as far as expectations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Yours is a 97 so you will need to order that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zachary.guy.jordan Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 where would i find a good one to swap with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zachary.guy.jordan Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 either way you go swap or turbo it would be a fun experience... i'm a hugh sohc guy but i do build and swap b,k,h,f, and c series engines. what are you looking for as far as power.. what do you want the car to do...drag...autocross...street car...etc. I think if i read your post right you have a 96 and newer civic. if so a gsr swap or gsr block and b16 head would be a pretty straight forward swap.. just get all the parts needed like the axles, shift linkage, ecu..etc. the ecu i suggest you get would be the p72 if you don't plan on getting hondata or some form of management.. why not invest that money in sohc.... let me know what you plan on doing as far as expectations dude if you want to help me that would be great man i need all the help i can get if you think that this sohc will work i want a street legal car i can take to the drag strip on the weekends and still get some good pass times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IVhorsemenmotorsports Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 dude if you want to help me that would be great man i need all the help i can get if you think that this sohc will work i want a street legal car i can take to the drag strip on the weekends and still get some good pass times How fast are you expecting the car to go? What type of fuel do you have as far as pump fuel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zachary.guy.jordan Posted December 28, 2008 Author Share Posted December 28, 2008 i just want it to be a fast street car i just want it to be as fast as possible and still street legal and i can get my hands on some 100 octane fuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastigir Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 i just want it to be a fast street car i just want it to be as fast as possible and still street legal and i can get my hands on some 100 octane fuel You won't be daily driving on 100 octane...it's a waste of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IVhorsemenmotorsports Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Well with the sohc i believe i can get the car to run a low 14 high 13sec which is fast already. We can also get it done with 91 octane. whats your budget? also send me a message if you want to get a straight answer from me. cant give away all the secrets you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Turbo you can get in the 10's, NA 12's. Neither will be cheap. Both streetable on pump gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranny Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 10's? SSR , please shut the fuk up with your bullcrap. 10's , gimme a fukin break. i cant beleve anyone even still listens to you , like seriously. guys running 600 horse built K engines in EG hatchs run 10's. changs 800 whp rsx ran a 10.2. i wish i lived in your fantasy world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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