shoulda_bought_a_honda Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 hey guys...new to the forums..i love my civic...its a 00 ex...i started out cheap crap...ya know header full exhaust intake plugs wires...bullshat...but i'm pretty much ready to do a swap...iv been doing alot of reading on different engines...and all i know is that from what iv read...ls vtec sucks!!!...unelss you do it right cuz the r/s ratio is not set up for it...hmotorsonline and tigerjapanese are some pretty good sights for engines but i don't know exactly what to do...type r or gsr...gsr is good for building but type r is pretty much allready set up for anything...unless i wanna put forged crap in it...allready cammed to perfection...header intake...everythings allready set up...so stock type r or built gsr??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondahunter Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 hey guys...new to the forums..i love my civic...its a 00 ex...i started out cheap crap...ya know header full exhaust intake plugs wires...bullshat...but i'm pretty much ready to do a swap...iv been doing alot of reading on different engines...and all i know is that from what iv read...ls vtec sucks!!!...unelss you do it right cuz the r/s ratio is not set up for it...hmotorsonline and tigerjapanese are some pretty good sights for engines but i don't know exactly what to do...type r or gsr...gsr is good for building but type r is pretty much allready set up for anything...unless i wanna put forged crap in it...allready cammed to perfection...header intake...everythings allready set up...so stock type r or built gsr??? what's in your wallet? and do you enjoy doing your own work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airjordan223 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 i'd say gsr because its a better motor to boost if you ever decide to go that route Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoulda_bought_a_honda Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 i'd say gsr because its a better motor to boost if you ever decide to go that route what exactly makes a gsr better to boost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airjordan223 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 the type R motor has high compression. you want lower compression for boost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoulda_bought_a_honda Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 what's in your wallet? and do you enjoy doing your own work? i got the cash...like i said...i was 19 when i bought my civ and didnt know crap when i bought it...i jsut wanted one...i shoulda bought a si or something...but i don't mind doing my own work...i'm jsut limited on tools since i go to school right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoulda_bought_a_honda Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 the type R motor has high compression. you want lower compression for boost true...but thats why god invented low compression pistons???...throw some low comp forged in that bitch she'd be ready to go...plus the lsd trans doesn't hurt either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lceah Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 ^you could add LSD to gsr I have a gsr with LSD... So you would leave the type-R stock? is this for everyday driving? IMO, gsr is a much better daily driver than type-R (reason why I bought a gsr instead of type-R)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoulda_bought_a_honda Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 ^you could add LSD to gsr I have a gsr with LSD... So you would leave the type-R stock? is this for everyday driving? IMO, gsr is a much better daily driver than type-R (reason why I bought a gsr instead of type-R)... yeah basically everyday driving...if i were to race with anything id import a skyline...but this is my primary vehicle...i mean don't get me wrong...id play with it alot...sit in winter...the cars never seen a winter or more than about an hour of rain...so why gsr though...what makes it a better daily driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lceah Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 type-R is more rev-hungry...and I believe the older ones are noisier inside because they don't have inside insulation for noise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastigir Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 type-R is more rev-hungry...and I believe the older ones are noisier inside because they don't have inside insulation for noise... All B-series are rev hungry, in that they don't make power until you get into the upper RPM band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lceah Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 true... type-R is much more though... oh ya and it has the suspension ready for a track...stiff!! Not too much of a comfy ride on the road everyday...imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoulda_bought_a_honda Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 All B-series are rev hungry, in that they don't make power until you get into the upper RPM band. right on man...preciate the help...that's why i'm lookin...i originally wanted to go h22 then k20...but don't feel like remountin and weldin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoulda_bought_a_honda Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 right on man...preciate the help...that's why i'm lookin...i originally wanted to go h22 then k20...but don't feel like remountin and weldin yeah but i'm not looking for a teg...i'm looking for an engine for my civ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrodh Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 All B-series are rev hungry, in that they don't make power until you get into the upper RPM band. It takes some getting used too as well I find myself crusing in town in 5th gear nowadays lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondahunter Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 i got the cash...like i said...i was 19 when i bought my civ and didnt know crap when i bought it...i jsut wanted one...i shoulda bought a si or something...but i don't mind doing my own work...i'm jsut limited on tools since i go to school right now cool. well i'd suggest build the gsr, why take a superiorly built ITR motor and turbocharge it? not that the GSRs are built bad, but that's what I'd do if I were to drive it daily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick B. Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 of course im going to say get a gsr... but im biased click here for more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Neither. Just have an engine built. Stock R is far from setup for anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lceah Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 ^I agree with you now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisz232 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 i was gonna buy a type R back a while ago and istead my homebody that onw a GSR said no if your going to get a VTEC honda just get a GSR. same motor just dif cams and compression. just but a JDM GSR motor and put stage 2 or 3 cams and its better then a GSR. if your going to boost but low comp pistons and type R cams cause the cams r better for boost in a type R motor. and if u go GSR istead of tpye R you saving about 2000 for parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_agu28 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 All B-series are rev hungry, in that they don't make power until you get into the upper RPM band. That is true except for the low end power motors like the b18b or ls and b20 motor which don't rev very high compared to a type r or gsr or b16 motor. I would go with the gsr. Cheaper and you can easily make up for the power difference with bolt ons with the money you saved by buying the gsr engine, but yet the type r is great for all motor and quick out the box, plus you get bragging rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastigir Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 That is true except for the low end power motors like the b18b or ls and b20 motor which don't rev very high compared to a type r or gsr or b16 motor. I would go with the gsr. Cheaper and you can easily make up for the power difference with bolt ons with the money you saved by buying the gsr engine, but yet the type r is great for all motor and quick out the box, plus you get bragging rights. What? They still don't reach max power until 5400 for the B20, and 6k or higher for the B18. I wouldn't call either of those low-end power. The GSR is a better motor simply because it's powerful enough, cheaper than a Type R, and with bolt-ons can make decent power. personally, I'd go B18B, build and boost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 i was gonna buy a type R back a while ago and istead my homebody that onw a GSR said no if your going to get a VTEC honda just get a GSR. same motor just dif cams and compression. just but a JDM GSR motor and put stage 2 or 3 cams and its better then a GSR. if your going to boost but low comp pistons and type R cams cause the cams r better for boost in a type R motor. and if u go GSR istead of tpye R you saving about 2000 for parts. O'rly? Different cylinder head different springs different intake valves different cams different intake manifold different exhaust manifold different throttle body different oil pump (original) different block different crank different rods different pistons different rod bolts different flywheel different clutch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastigir Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 O'rly? Different cylinder head different springs different intake valves different cams different intake manifold different exhaust manifold different throttle body different oil pump (original) different block different crank different rods different pistons different rod bolts different flywheel different clutch Pssst...he already said the cams were different. Seriously, just pullin' your leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_agu28 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 What? They still don't reach max power until 5400 for the B20, and 6k or higher for the B18. I wouldn't call either of those low-end power. The GSR is a better motor simply because it's powerful enough, cheaper than a Type R, and with bolt-ons can make decent power. personally, I'd go B18B, build and boost. I mean like they are super rev happy like the type r or gsr the red line in the 8 or 9 grand area. But I am with you on the same Idea. LS engine is great for boost. But should he go lsvtec or stay to normal ls non vtec? O'rly? Different cylinder head different springs different intake valves different cams different intake manifold different exhaust manifold different throttle body different oil pump (original) different block different crank different rods different pistons different rod bolts different flywheel different clutch Yeah those are entirely two different engines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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