Hondahunter Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 What would be the best rear strut tower bar for my 94 Vtec? And where should I buy from? How much difference will it make? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastresort576 Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 from what ive seen in comparison testing, the rear strut tower bar on a sol actually makes you slower(lap times) than with out it. the car is a bit too stiff in all the spots but the center, where an H-style brace would be ideal! so myself personally i wouldnt get it. but hit up www.EmRacing.com you'll have great luck with them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondahunter Posted September 6, 2008 Author Share Posted September 6, 2008 from what ive seen in comparison testing, the rear strut tower bar on a sol actually makes you slower(lap times) than with out it. the car is a bit too stiff in all the spots but the center, where an H-style brace would be ideal! so myself personally i wouldnt get it. but hit up www.EmRacing.com you'll have great luck with them! Okay cool deal. How is the H-brace mounted? And where to find one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastresort576 Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Okay cool deal. How is the H-brace mounted? And where to find one? you dont..from what i've been told its very difficult to design a functional one for the sol. and i have not heard of any manufacturers producing/offereing any. its the same concept as the miatas use, and flyinhawian.com makes for the miatas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondahunter Posted September 6, 2008 Author Share Posted September 6, 2008 you dont..from what i've been told its very difficult to design a functional one for the sol. and i have not heard of any manufacturers producing/offereing any. its the same concept as the miatas use, and flyinhawian.com makes for the miatas. Hmm. well maybe i'll just hang it up. I'm going to thread jack now b/c it's my thread. How bad do you think 2 12s and a 15 (with 2 amps and a box)will affect my MPG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannaBstuntin Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 How bad do you think 2 12s and a 15 (with 2 amps and a box)will affect my MPG? Depends how much they weigh, but they shouldnt affect mpg too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airjordan223 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 two 12s and a 15 is overkill and you also wont have enough box space for both (if you build the box right) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondahunter Posted September 12, 2008 Author Share Posted September 12, 2008 two 12s and a 15 is overkill and you also wont have enough box space for both (if you build the box right) 3 cubic feet total? I won't have enough space for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TS John Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 I'm no specialist in box builder but I would deffo guess that they would need more space than that. My buddy built a box for a 9" sub and that alone was about a cubic foot. The bigger the sub the more space you'll need for it to resonate right and all. Edit: I actually don't see how a rear strut tower brace would raise lap times but to be fair I've never looked into it. I will say that in my experience strut and sway bars make a dramatic difference on handling, though. Also, look into Carbing to get stuff to firm up your chassis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanGSR Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Sway bars make a big difference, but I've never found a strut bar to do much unless it's something like the Miracle X bar. I ran without a strut bar in the front for a few days when waiting for my ITR one to arrive from Nanceroo and I honestly couldn't tell a difference in the handling......and we have some pretty twisty roads and some spirited driving every now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannaBstuntin Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Sway bars are to give you good handling and reduce roll. Strut bars are to keep you from twisting the chassis during hard turns. It just keeps the chassis more firm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastresort576 Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 well ive got a 3-point front strut bar and makes a world of a difference! it got rid of my wheel hop, and just helps a ton overall! as well as the 15mm del sol vtec rear sway i added with stock teg lca's. the car has plenty of turn in and i have only gotten the car to understeer once, and its because i wasnt actually driving/racing i was being a jack ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannaBstuntin Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 FWD usually have oversteer anyways. Which is why a rear sway bar and strut bar will help to even it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastresort576 Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 FWD usually have oversteer anyways. Which is why a rear sway bar and strut bar will help to even it out. ?? are you sure you're not confusing the too? FWD's have understeer. best example is when you turn the wheel the car continues to go straight. you add a rear sway bar to make the rear end less independent by connecting the lca's together, and using the body for support too. Thus, resulting in the rear end wanting to break loose, creating 'turn in' by promoting 'oversteer' which aids in getting rid of understeer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airjordan223 Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 3 cubic feet total? I won't have enough space for that? here's a start. http://www.hondaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=30996 this is a box built to spec for an 8" sub and this is what happens when you build a box to the correct specs of a sub so back on topic, sway bars will be far more effective than strut bars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmgogo Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 3 cubic feet total? I won't have enough space for that? honestly HTF are you going to fit that into a sol?? That would require your 2 12's in the cabin, and you 15 in the trunk. and i dont know if youve ever heard subs in the cabin, but they suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondahunter Posted September 15, 2008 Author Share Posted September 15, 2008 sorry, i meant two 10s and a 15. But the 15 requires 1.5 cubic feet. I think the tens are .75, but I'm not 100% sure. And they're all going in the trunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airjordan223 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 sorry, i meant two 10s and a 15. But the 15 requires 1.5 cubic feet. I think the tens are .75, but I'm not 100% sure. And they're all going in the trunk. yeah man thats not gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondahunter Posted September 16, 2008 Author Share Posted September 16, 2008 yeah man thats not gonna happen. i'm still looking at options, and i can get them in there. I may put the tens in the rear corners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airjordan223 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 rather than buying two 10's, a 15, and losing your trunk completely. why dont you put that money towards a good sub, and build a box perfectly to spec. this way you will have a better sounding system, probably save money, and also still have a usable trunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastresort576 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 15's are sloppy, 10's are nice for the very tight base since boomy'ness can be tuned by the box/eq. a single kick ass 12" would prob be ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannaBstuntin Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Here ya go. A civic with a 15" and a Civic with 2 12"s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex37211 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 I bet that helps balance out the chassis with all that extra weight back there. ^^^ As far as cubic feet, some subs are much more efficient for box volume that others. Also, it really depends on what type of box we;re talking about. Sealed is gonna save a lot of room but sacrifice some spl over a ported setup. I've got an MTX Thunder 7500 10" that weighs 25 lbs and handles 400rms. But it only requires like a .75 cubic foot sealed box. I had a fosgate P3 with the same specs. I believe the specs for a ported box for it was 1.25 or so cubic feet. In contrast, I've seen some shtiy cheap weak 10's that listed a one cubic foot sealed box necessary. But in the end, 3 subs is overkill in a del sol. If you wanna beat the block down, get a cutlass or something. I remember my sol...one day I managed to shove a bandpass box with 2 12's in the trunk. It was pretty loud and sounded great. But I couldn't even put the targa top back there anymore. I ditched it shortly after discovering this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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