civichatch201 Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 is there any cars that have better calipers then the stock grs ones that bolt into a gsr? like maybe another honda/acura with 4 piston calipers or 2? i want to run bigger breaks and i was just wodering if there was an easier way then buying wilwoods or brembo's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Better pads and tires will be way more effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pballer2005 Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 yeah tires made a huge difference for me. you don't really think about it but the tires are what hold you to the road so if they hold better under cornering then they will be less likely to lock up under braking. but if you want to upgrade calipers and stuff i would recommend something that's slotted or has better cooling because my stock rotors heat up quick and I'm worried about warping them. I've also heard that the lighter alloys they use in aftermarket rotors help acceleration since there is less unsprung weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 OEM rotors. Slotted and drilled don't do crap. Unsprung weight helps with cornering, rotational weight helps with acceleration. Good fluid and ducts will solve your overheating problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
civichatch201 Posted September 1, 2008 Author Share Posted September 1, 2008 i just wanted to go a little bigger then stock i drive my car around waterford hills alot and i think the breaks are the next thing im going to upgrade i ha\ve steel braded lines coming in right now for hopefully a stiffer petal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pballer2005 Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 OEM rotors. Slotted and drilled don't do crap. Unsprung weight helps with cornering, rotational weight helps with acceleration. Good fluid and ducts will solve your overheating problems. what do you mean by good fluid? as in a specific kind or brand or just fresh fluid? and how would you go about running ducting cuz i've thought about doing that, like maybe running it from those side holes on my front bumper (where most people put fog lights) to my brakes. which is unsprung and which is rotational cuz i've heard them used almost interchangeably a lot these days. oh and by oem rotors do you mean the ones that are provided with my vehicle or just oem style but maybe a different alloy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastigir Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 what do you mean by good fluid? as in a specific kind or brand or just fresh fluid? and how would you go about running ducting cuz i've thought about doing that, like maybe running it from those side holes on my front bumper (where most people put fog lights) to my brakes. which is unsprung and which is rotational cuz i've heard them used almost interchangeably a lot these days. oh and by oem rotors do you mean the ones that are provided with my vehicle or just oem style but maybe a different alloy? Fresh fluid. Fluid accumulates water over time, which lowers it's boiling point. I believe Honda does brake fluid changes every 30k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 No. Good fluid like Superblue. OEM style rotors from Autozone or your parts store of choice. RUn duct from front bumper using to the bottom rear side of the rotor. To the OP, why do you think you need to upgrade your brakes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
civichatch201 Posted September 1, 2008 Author Share Posted September 1, 2008 well i want to improve my times and and be able to stop a little faster before a corner so i figure a break upgrade is needed also i was thinking of getting some new calipers and painting them black just so they dont get that nasty rust color so before i bought new stock calipers i thought i would see if any other cars had interchangable caliper/rotor setups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex37211 Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 You could always go with the ITR 5-lug conversion and brakes including brake booster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
civichatch201 Posted September 1, 2008 Author Share Posted September 1, 2008 ive got the break booster and i put all new lines in the car ive got integra gsr breaks now. i want like 2 or 4 piston calipers. thats what im going to end up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Improve your times for what? If its autocross, calipers will way outclass you. If its HPDE, it doesn't matter as its not timed and shouldn't be treated as a race. All 2 or 4 pistons will do is change the pedal feel, they won't make you stop faster. Braking is tire limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
civichatch201 Posted September 2, 2008 Author Share Posted September 2, 2008 no i dont race like in comp or anything i jujst keep track of personal times and i want to be faster. and i run 215 50 15's on my car thats like the widest tire i can fit in the wheel well and there the falcon azenis tires so there really grippy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Not grippy enough. I can lock my brakes up on track without even trying. ITR brakes, Cobalt XR3 pads, Azenis. Unless you have tons of power you shouldn't need more brake then what you've got. Hondas are momentum cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pballer2005 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 i've also heard that steal braided brake lines keep things from feeling mushy after it gets hot? so a combo of steal lines, good fluid, and ducting would be a pretty good combo for some fun mountain roads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Yeah. I've never got my brakes hot enough on mountains here to get them up to temps I see on track. stock everything is fine for street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pballer2005 Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 cool good info. here i am thinking that i have to spend boat loads on an aftermarket system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
civichatch201 Posted September 3, 2008 Author Share Posted September 3, 2008 if 2 and 4 piston calipers dont help then why does almost every track car use them? i dont see how having a bigger contact area will not help breaking.?" im just a little lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastigir Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 if 2 and 4 piston calipers dont help then why does almost every track car use them? i dont see how having a bigger contact area will not help breaking.?"im just a little lost. The number of pistons in the caliper, DO NOT change the size of the contact area. Larger pads do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 pedal modulation and effort as well as rotor size. pedal mod and effort is very important. bigger rotors with a small caliper will get hot and fade that is bad bigger caliper to go with bigger rotors will wear the pads funny and not allow the pads full contact, that is bad bigger calipers with more pistons will give the pads full contact, that is good full contact on bigger rotors/calipers will not make you stop faster. high power and heavy cars are hard on the brakes, they need bigger brakes to maintain temps. Should be able to figure it out from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
civichatch201 Posted September 4, 2008 Author Share Posted September 4, 2008 The number of pistons in the caliper, DO NOT change the size of the contact area. Larger pads do. well with more pistons pad size would have to increase you cant put stock size pads is a 4 piston brembo caliper... and thanks for the advice SSR maybe ill just get some itr calipers ans some new rotors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 More pistons doesn't mean the caliper is larger. Depends on the piston size. Some bigger calipers will actually increase your braking distance versus decrease it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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