CleanGSR Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 This is what I have lined out...Koni Yellows with Tein H-Tech springs. The Konis are $450 shipped, and the Tein springs are $169 shipped. Will this be a good combo to met my DD requirements? Do not get H-tech's with Koni Yellows. H-techs are a almost a factory spring rate and will be too soft to go with the Yellows. At the least get S-techs and even then it's a little soft for yellows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannaBstuntin Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Do not get H-tech's with Koni Yellows. H-techs are a almost a factory spring rate and will be too soft to go with the Yellows. At the least get S-techs and even then it's a little soft for yellows. What's the measurement for spring rate Hung? What is it for these springs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanGSR Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I don't know the actual spring rates. But S-techs aren't much stiffer than stock and H-techs are softer than S-techs. H-techs are used a lot on luxury types of vehicles to give a small drop with no change in ride quality. (no change in handling either aside from the lower center of gravity) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unpredictableacts Posted January 18, 2008 Author Share Posted January 18, 2008 I don't know the actual spring rates. But S-techs aren't much stiffer than stock and H-techs are softer than S-techs. H-techs are used a lot on luxury types of vehicles to give a small drop with no change in ride quality. (no change in handling either aside from the lower center of gravity) Understandable.....So what is the best bang for the buck spring that will be a perfect match for the yellows and maybe under $200? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanGSR Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 If you want a comfy ride still, S-techs are good, but Yellows are really a top end shock used for auot-x and road racing on a car that's also a daily driver. If you are only going to drop 1.5" and don't plan to raod race ( not the same as street racing), then I think Yellows are way overkill. In my opinion, you'd be better suited with Tokico Illumina's and Tein S-techs or the Eibach pro-kit springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unpredictableacts Posted January 18, 2008 Author Share Posted January 18, 2008 If you want a comfy ride still, S-techs are good, but Yellows are really a top end shock used for auot-x and road racing on a car that's also a daily driver. If you are only going to drop 1.5" and don't plan to raod race ( not the same as street racing), then I think Yellows are way overkill. In my opinion, you'd be better suited with Tokico Illumina's and Tein S-techs or the Eibach pro-kit springs. not really doing any road racing....just loooking for something to handle well. What is everyone else running as far as springs with the yellows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannaBstuntin Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 I had Eibach Pros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanGSR Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 not really doing any road racing....just loooking for something to handle well. What is everyone else running as far as springs with the yellows? Everybody I've seen is running Ground Control Coilovers with the Koni Yellows and most use custom spring rates for their needs. Most are also running a 2-3" drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannaBstuntin Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Everybody I've seen is running Ground Control Coilovers with the Koni Yellows and most use custom spring rates for their needs. Most are also running a 2-3" drop. Hung, aren't coilovers a replacement for the Konis? Like, don't you need coilovers OR springs and shocks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanGSR Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Ground Controls are a coilover spring that goes over the shock. Adjustable spring perches. You can get full coilovers (spring and shock combo) or coilover sleeves/springs which mount to a shock. Here's an picture of my setup before installation The red/gold are the coilovers (springs and sleeves) and the white are the struts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannaBstuntin Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Ok gotcha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unpredictableacts Posted January 19, 2008 Author Share Posted January 19, 2008 How rough do those ride...i fil that anything over 1.75" would be too much and also the camber problem I could see myself fighting. Ok let me do this........you have $700 to spend on your 95 hatch.....lets so you guys upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airjordan223 Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 How rough do those ride...i fil that anything over 1.75" would be too much and also the camber problem I could see myself fighting. Ok let me do this........you have $700 to spend on your 95 hatch.....lets so you guys upgrade. TS_John started a good suspension thread, you could probably find some good answers in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannaBstuntin Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Hung has repeated the same answers about 5 times already. You just need to make up your mind as to what it is you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch92 Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 eBay!! i ran a set of springs and perches off of ebay for over a year with no real issues and it had a decent ride. swapped the springs for a set of eibach i believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanGSR Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 How rough do those ride...i fil that anything over 1.75" would be too much and also the camber problem I could see myself fighting. Ok let me do this........you have $700 to spend on your 95 hatch.....lets so you guys upgrade. They ride great...not even harsh really on setting 2. However, I'm dropped 3" with 1.75" extended top hats in the rear, and 1.25" extended top hats in the front, plus I modified the front shocks to sit lower in the spring perch (1.25" lower), which gives extra shock travel..... So...as far as my shocks (shock travel) are concerned, I'm dropped .5" in the front and 1.25" in the rear (as far as the equivalent shock travel). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unpredictableacts Posted January 21, 2008 Author Share Posted January 21, 2008 They ride great...not even harsh really on setting 2. However, I'm dropped 3" with 1.75" extended top hats in the rear, and 1.25" extended top hats in the front, plus I modified the front shocks to sit lower in the spring perch (1.25" lower), which gives extra shock travel..... So...as far as my shocks (shock travel) are concerned, I'm dropped .5" in the front and 1.25" in the rear (as far as the equivalent shock travel). What all is involved in extending the top hats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unpredictableacts Posted February 11, 2008 Author Share Posted February 11, 2008 I went with the Eibach pros and Koni yellows. Should be here with in the next week.....pics will soon follow there after. Thanks Guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch92 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 sweet. congrats on the new purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanGSR Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 What all is involved in extending the top hats? Sorry I never saw this, but I'll answer the question anyway. To extend to top hat, you cut the top section of the top hat in half, add a 1-2 inch piece of metal tubing (not sure on the diamater exactly), and weld the tube into the section you cut. Here's a couple pictures of my extended top hats to give a picture with the explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lceah Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I learned something...thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unpredictableacts Posted February 12, 2008 Author Share Posted February 12, 2008 Sorry I never saw this, but I'll answer the question anyway. To extend to top hat, you cut the top section of the top hat in half, add a 1-2 inch piece of metal tubing (not sure on the diamater exactly), and weld the tube into the section you cut. Here's a couple pictures of my extended top hats to give a picture with the explanation. I figured you happen to miss my post. You helped me a ton and so did the others. How much of myy bump stops do I need to cut off with the drop I am going with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanGSR Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Just cut them in half and use the wider part.....toss the skinny part of the bump stops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH6TunerDaniel Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Sorry I never saw this, but I'll answer the question anyway. To extend to top hat, you cut the top section of the top hat in half, add a 1-2 inch piece of metal tubing (not sure on the diamater exactly), and weld the tube into the section you cut. Here's a couple pictures of my extended top hats to give a picture with the explanation. I remember when you were looking for a set of top hats so you wouldnt have to take yours off of your vehicle to have that done, and I was going to send you some, but for some reason it never happened......I wonder if I still have those, because thats how I was planning on making a set of those, just get a footlong piece of metal tubing and use a chop saw to cut the right lenght, and weld it in between......yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unpredictableacts Posted February 13, 2008 Author Share Posted February 13, 2008 I remember when you were looking for a set of top hats so you wouldnt have to take yours off of your vehicle to have that done, and I was going to send you some, but for some reason it never happened......I wonder if I still have those, because thats how I was planning on making a set of those, just get a footlong piece of metal tubing and use a chop saw to cut the right lenght, and weld it in between......yep. HMMM wonder if the top hats for the sol would fit my hatch? If they do I may be interested in a set to have around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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