Sedare Posted May 6, 2007 Share Posted May 6, 2007 I just bought the car recently and its a chop job off 2 cars but its clean and done well. Chop was just infront of the rear window, and just behind the rear seats. EX back half, LX vtec front half. I managed to salvage most of the interior from the EX tho. Things I need help with if you can help me. I took the power seats from the EX model and put them in my LX, and there arent any connectors to plug the power from the seat into in the LX part of the car. I havent looked around yet or wouldnt know where to start to get it done. Once I get an idea, ill try it. The plug has 4 wires, and simply put, how do I wire that? What do the 4 wires do and from what? CEL light, well... car should have more power, and it doesnt. I dont know where to find the CEL code, (or if there is one, like the 3rd gen has an ECU light under the seat... I dont know where the code would be or what i have to do to find out.) and am just lookin for general info. SRS light is, i have no clue other then its an airbag warning light. They are new airbags now, but I dont know how they were hooked up, and didnt think about that when I did it, and now i regret it. Does a dealer need to reset it for it to work? or can I do it myself? or what does that possibly mean? Ball joint Front driver side going out, Wheel bearing Front Passenger side going out, and there isnt a honda dealership for 150 miles, unless I go to canada. and im not. I dont have the parts to the other halves of the cars, and the V6 motor in the EX was destroyed. I was sad. Links or comments appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffro Posted May 6, 2007 Share Posted May 6, 2007 First of all, I would not be sad about losing the v6... Engines are alright but tranny's are garbage, and the 5-speeds are bulletproof, so that would be an improvement for the car. 2nd, if you're car is throwing a CEL, it would show up on your dash, just to the left of the maintenance light, and you can jumper the ECU to get it to throw the code. I'm assuming you have the 4-cyl cluster and not the 6-cyl, because the "Ford" produced 6-cyl. cluster is different from the "Honda" produced 4-cyl. 3rd, the SRS light doesn't just mean airbags, it also means seatbelts. Odds are, if you haven't plugged the seats in to the appropriate plug so the seat-belt sensor is activated, then you will get a SRS light because the sensor is missing. I'd start there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedare Posted May 7, 2007 Author Share Posted May 7, 2007 First of all, I would not be sad about losing the v6... Engines are alright but tranny's are garbage, and the 5-speeds are bulletproof, so that would be an improvement for the car. 2nd, if you're car is throwing a CEL, it would show up on your dash, just to the left of the maintenance light, and you can jumper the ECU to get it to throw the code. I'm assuming you have the 4-cyl cluster and not the 6-cyl, because the "Ford" produced 6-cyl. cluster is different from the "Honda" produced 4-cyl. 3rd, the SRS light doesn't just mean airbags, it also means seatbelts. Odds are, if you haven't plugged the seats in to the appropriate plug so the seat-belt sensor is activated, then you will get a SRS light because the sensor is missing. I'd start there. yeah the front of the car is LX SOHC vtec 4cyl... forgive me im not a car mechanic. What does it mean to "Jumper the ECU"? good to know about the V6... its long gone anyways. and i have a place to start about the SRS light. Any clue what the wiring diagram is for the power seat? or where to find more info on it? I dont have a manual yet... so that might be my first step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffro Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 My Haynes doesn't list the seat wires specifically, but it does say there should be a red/blue wire that is the + going to the seatbelt switch, and a black that is the ground. What are the colors of the other two wires under your seat? If its power seat, I'd guess that one is a 12v constant wire, and one should measure +12v when the car is on. I don't have powerseats myself to confirm that though. There should be at least 2 wires available under the seat if its the LX wiring, and if its the EX wiring then I assume the power seats should be plug and play... Before you use a jumper to pull the CEL code, is your CEL on? If itsnot, it would be worthless to jumper it and you shouldn't have a CEL problem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedare Posted May 7, 2007 Author Share Posted May 7, 2007 My Haynes doesn't list the seat wires specifically, but it does say there should be a red/blue wire that is the + going to the seatbelt switch, and a black that is the ground. What are the colors of the other two wires under your seat? If its power seat, I'd guess that one is a 12v constant wire, and one should measure +12v when the car is on. I don't have powerseats myself to confirm that though. There should be at least 2 wires available under the seat if its the LX wiring, and if its the EX wiring then I assume the power seats should be plug and play... Before you use a jumper to pull the CEL code, is your CEL on? If itsnot, it would be worthless to jumper it and you shouldn't have a CEL problem... The CEL is ALWAYS on... along with the Maint Req'd light also. accessory, while driving and I tried to toggle the ignition, and the CEL is on, shuts off for about 2 seconds, and CEL turns on and 1/2 second later, Maint light comes right on after. I remember that trick from my old friends Dodge shadow, not sure if I accomplished anything tho LOL. Ill look for a plug under my seat also... that would also explain the SRS light with the seatbelt issue since its not pluged into anything. hope so... airbags i hear can be expensive to get checked out. Remember the SEAT has the wires, NOT THE CAR. I dont know how to approach THAT problem yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffro Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 To reset Maintenance Required Light: Press and hole "reset" (also triptik reset) with the car off. Turn ignition to "on" and continue to hold button (about 10 seconds) until light stops flashing. That's all for that. Worthless light. There should be wires under the carpet for the seat to plug into. If you need it, I can check my wiring chart to tell you where they should end up, but again it doesn't show anything for power seats. For the ECU, I lied, its under the drivers side near the trunk release lever. You need to stick a small sire or something to "jumper" pins #8 and #13 and read the flashes the CEL gives you. (with the ignition turned to on). Long flashes are the first digit and short the second. For Instance, 4 long and 2 short is code #42. Then we can go from there. Here is a simple diagram to let you know what you're looking for. It looks like a little gray plug and it sort of hangs down under the kick panel. If I get energetic I'll take a picture or scan my Haynes, but see if you can figure it out from this: / = = = = = = =(=) \ / = = = =(=)= = = \ The "=" signs are holes for pins. The top one on the right would be pin #8, and the 5th one on the second row would be pin #13. (Counting from the left) Edit: You can also ask any major issues on 6thgenaccord.com. Some of those guys have much more experience with our cars than I do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedare Posted May 8, 2007 Author Share Posted May 8, 2007 To reset Maintenance Required Light: Press and hole "reset" (also triptik reset) with the car off. Turn ignition to "on" and continue to hold button (about 10 seconds) until light stops flashing. That's all for that. Worthless light. There should be wires under the carpet for the seat to plug into. If you need it, I can check my wiring chart to tell you where they should end up, but again it doesn't show anything for power seats. For the ECU, I lied, its under the drivers side near the trunk release lever. You need to stick a small sire or something to "jumper" pins #8 and #13 and read the flashes the CEL gives you. (with the ignition turned to on). Long flashes are the first digit and short the second. For Instance, 4 long and 2 short is code #42. Then we can go from there. Here is a simple diagram to let you know what you're looking for. It looks like a little gray plug and it sort of hangs down under the kick panel. If I get energetic I'll take a picture or scan my Haynes, but see if you can figure it out from this: / = = = = = = =(=) \ / = = = =(=)= = = \ The "=" signs are holes for pins. The top one on the right would be pin #8, and the 5th one on the second row would be pin #13. (Counting from the left) Edit: You can also ask any major issues on 6thgenaccord.com. Some of those guys have much more experience with our cars than I do maintance light off now... doing CEL check with a paper clip as we speak brb in 10 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedare Posted May 8, 2007 Author Share Posted May 8, 2007 45 and 67 ill see if i can find what they mean *EDIT* P0171 - 45 - System Adaptive fuel too lean P0172 - 45 - System Adaptive fuel too rich P0420 - 67 - Catalyst system efficiency below threshold no clue where to go now... BTW its pin 9 and 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffro Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 Are you sure you did the right 2 pins? My Haynes says #8 and #13 and I've got no reason to believe that's wrong... Anyway, I've seen those two codes together before, hold on... Edit: Ok, from what I read on 6thgenaccord.com, a new cat will get rid of your p0420 code, although some have gotten away with new o2 sensors and cleared the code and had that work. I also read that some fuel system cleaner will clear out the fuel system problem. Here is where I got the info. I also read dirty fuel injectors from the swap could be a culprit as well. Hope this helps! If all else fails, clear it and see if it comes back (To clear codes, pull "clock" fuse in drivers side fuse box) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedare Posted May 8, 2007 Author Share Posted May 8, 2007 Are you sure you did the right 2 pins? My Haynes says #8 and #13 and I've got no reason to believe that's wrong... Anyway, I've seen those two codes together before, hold on... Edit: Ok, from what I read on 6thgenaccord.com, a new cat will get rid of your p0420 code, although some have gotten away with new o2 sensors and cleared the code and had that work. I also read that some fuel system cleaner will clear out the fuel system problem. Here is where I got the info. I also read dirty fuel injectors from the swap could be a culprit as well. Hope this helps! If all else fails, clear it and see if it comes back (To clear codes, pull "clock" fuse in drivers side fuse box) yeah i spent 20 minutes using different things for those 2 pin slots... then i thought.... what if UP was... DOWN... swap sides... plug in upsidedown... BAM went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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