compuvision02 Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Hey all, I need some opinions, if you are going to give a rediculous response, don't bother. Here is a little background about me and the situation, followed by the dilema. Thanks for reading. I am 21 years old, I work full time at Mercedes Benz of West Chester as a car washer getting $9 a hour, should be getting $10 a hour once summer hits. I plan on going back to school part time in fall 2007 while I work, then in spring 2008 I plan on going back to full time school to finish up my associates degree and go part time work. From there I will most likely go into car sales for a while, depending on how that goes, I may or may not go for my bachelors degree. I am looking to get a car that I will be making monthly payments on for a few years, a car that will be comfortable, reliable, and nice looking; something I won't get tired of since it will be my daily driver and be nice. So most likely I am going to be getting a fairly new used car or lease a car if I find something for a decent monthly price and mileage limit. I have three options from here, this is where I need the opinions, which have to do with my EH2. I am really unsure of what I want to do with it, the thing pisses me off, but I love it. There is a lot of time, money, and work put in to the car. I am still going to buy the MFactory forged cam gears and get it dyno tuned by J-K-Tuning.com, but after that is a big question mark to me. First option would be to sell the car. I would get as much as I can for it and buy a Yamaha R6, so I would have a nice comfortable daily driver and a bike. I'd call it a day there. The car just seems like more of a hassle then it is worth and I am going to be dumping so much money into it in the end, already have dumpped way too much. The second option is to keep it and build it for drag racing. I'd aim for around 550fwhp, drive it on nice weekends and to and from the track, keep it emissions exempt, under 6,000 miles. I'd have a fast ass car that I got to drive every once in a while,but it would probably break quite a bit. Third option is to build it for Honda Challenge. This would be cheaper then drag racing to begin with and cheaper in the end if I got a body shop sponsor. The car won't be as fast as it could be, it would be fast though, but it would not be streetable, so I'd have to buy a truck and a trailer. Not to mention I'm not sure how capable I would be able to get to the events. So this may not be a very good option. I am up for opinions, but pretty much it comes down to sell it or make it a race car. It makes no sense to do a mild build and have a quick car that I drive every once in a while, that wouldn't be fun. I'm personally leaning toward selling it and get away from modifying cars hardcore and just do simple exterior and a good amount of audio stuff to the new car. Thanks a lot. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycarsux Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 I'd go with option 2. But if you end up doing option one, then I get first call on the B18C Good luck deciding dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compuvision02 Posted April 22, 2007 Author Share Posted April 22, 2007 I just talk to my parents a little more on the situation, I told them I still have like $15,000 plus that I want to dump into the EH2, they both thought it was rediculous, but if I keep the car, that's what I'd want to do, what's the fun in having a weekend Civic, let alone a 13 second one, if it was a 10 second one, it'd change a lot on the view that it's just a Civic. I'd like to try and get $7,500 if not a little more, if possible. You think starting at $9,000 is too much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphries Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 is the CF hood yours now? because it will throw buyers off with the dent in the OEM hood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TS John Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Wow. Dumping an extra 15k into it would be ridiculous. I'd sell it and buy the bike and the nice car. Or just keep it as is plus the gears and tune. Still would prolly be plenty of fun compared to the marginal gains for all that cash you'd lay out making it a drag car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSX-S-T Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 If I was you I would probably sell the car. Most of your other options sound cool and all that but in the long run will just cost you more money and are probably unlikely. And I dont think the bike is such a good Idea either unless you have lots of money and its a hobby of yours. Bike=tickets or death. So I would give you another option. Sell the car and save your money, your 21 and its good to have alittle money to fall back on because most people your age or even older dont. And it really would be a great idea to invest the money. The younger you are the better. You invest 10,000 now when your 50 you could have like 300,000. And thats planning for you future. Fixing up cars has always been a thing I wanted to do, but you kinda need to be alittle more financually stable. You'll have plenty of time down the road to pick this hobby back up. I m just now approching a point in my life where I can do just that. I am going to pay of my RSX after having it for 2 years and buy a truck so I can fix up the car. So think about that, it may not be what you wanna do but its a good idea none the less. Save the money and just forget about it. Buy a car that is reliable, and gets good gas milage and has good resell value, acuras are good for this. Hope this helps. And 2 yrs or so down the road pick up were you left off with money in the bank at that time you will be glad you did I am sure, other than spending it on a bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphries Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 i'd sell the EH and get the bike for great gas mileage and they're fun as hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben. Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 I just talk to my parents a little more on the situation, I told them I still have like $15,000 plus that I want to dump into the EH2, they both thought it was rediculous, but if I keep the car, that's what I'd want to do, what's the fun in having a weekend Civic, let alone a 13 second one, if it was a 10 second one, it'd change a lot on the view that it's just a Civic. I'd like to try and get $7,500 if not a little more, if possible. You think starting at $9,000 is too much? 7,500 is pushing it for an EH2, permitted you're selling it. You could get it if you had it re-loaded with the stereo equipment, dolled up and as clean as humanly possible. Is it throwing any CEL's? Still have a/c? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90IntegraC1 Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Sell the Civic. Buy an R6. Use the rest as a down payment for a G35 Coupe or Sedan, lease it for 3 or 4 years and enjoy. I would love to do the same thing at this point, but I'll get 3K for my car....not even worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxscaxx Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 f*ck bikes. listen, if you sell the car, i guarantee you will regret it. i got an STi and i STILL wish i had my del sol. but if its giving you a lot of problems, then id consider getting rid of it. you will never get nearly as much as what you put into it too, so remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90IntegraC1 Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 The other option that you could consider is this: Eagle Rods (w/ ARP Rod Bolts), CP 12.0:1 Pistons/Rings, New OEM Rod/Main Bearings, Quaife LSD, and a Jeff Evans Tune. You'd have a 12-second civic easily, 11-second civic with nitrous. That's about a $1000 build + LSD (optional) and Tune. Then you're done. After that look into a luxury car....your civic is soooo close to being "fully built" and honestly, I KNOW you'll regret getting rid of it. Think about it....your head is complete, you have a beautiful trans in a ridiculously light car. Mild build on the block and tune and you're done.....Mike B. said that Joey knows of a crazy deal somewhere for Eagle Rods/CP Pistons. Ask about it if interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compuvision02 Posted April 23, 2007 Author Share Posted April 23, 2007 7,500 is pushing it for an EH2, permitted you're selling it. You could get it if you had it re-loaded with the stereo equipment, dolled up and as clean as humanly possible. Is it throwing any CEL's? Still have a/c? Well the radio is going back in, I am getting refunded by insurance and buying another. I clean the car two or three times a week and Saturdays I do a better job on it. No check engine lights, still have air conditioning, chassis has 95,000 miles, rust is barely emerging, and no problems with the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben. Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 I could see 7500 then. A/C = FTW. Or try 8. Or if all else fails, put that crap on ebay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compuvision02 Posted April 23, 2007 Author Share Posted April 23, 2007 listen, if you sell the car, i guarantee you will regret it. i got an STi and i STILL wish i had my del sol. but if its giving you a lot of problems, then id consider getting rid of it. you will never get nearly as much as what you put into it too, so remember that. Well for anyone who never saw this, this is my build up thread, shows all the previous cars I've had, modifications they had, and times they ran. http://www.hondaforums.com/index.php?showt...=19206&st=0 And no, the car doesn't give me problems, just doesn't seem quite worth it. When you've had and driven so many different kinds of cars, you look at them a lot differently. AWD, FWD, RWD, I4, I6, V6, V8, etc., they all have their ups and downs. But this Civic is going to be my race and weekend car, I don't think having a high 12 second fun car is very fun. Turbo build woud take a long time and a lot of money, but then atleast the car will seem worth it to drive every once in a while. The Honda Challenge car isn't something that I would do most likely, just another idea to make it decently quick, but it'd have a purpose. I just can't see myself going, "This is my race car, it runs high 12's." To me, fast doesn't even start until 11.99. I don't know how many people are going to understand that. I don't plan on racing the bike or what not, I just plan on having it to ride when it's nice out and ride with my good buddy Mike. I'd drive the new daily driver a lot, just because that's what I'm getting it for. Something quick, nice, luxurious, and new; the EJ1 wasn't a really good choice for a daily driver, the motor killed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben. Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Well for anyone who never saw this, this is my build up thread, shows all the previous cars I've had, modifications they had, and times they ran. http://www.hondaforums.com/index.php?showt...=19206&st=0 And no, the car doesn't give me problems, just doesn't seem quite worth it. When you've had and driven so many different kinds of cars, you look at them a lot differently. AWD, FWD, RWD, I4, I6, V6, V8, etc., they all have their ups and downs. But this Civic is going to be my race and weekend car, I don't think having a high 12 second fun car is very fun. Turbo build woud take a long time and a lot of money, but then atleast the car will seem worth it to drive every once in a while. The Honda Challenge car isn't something that I would do most likely, just another idea to make it decently quick, but it'd have a purpose. I just can't see myself going, "This is my race car, it runs high 12's." To me, fast doesn't even start until 11.99. I don't know how many people are going to understand that. I don't plan on racing the bike or what not, I just plan on having it to ride when it's nice out and ride with my good buddy Mike. I'd drive the new daily driver a lot, just because that's what I'm getting it for. Something quick, nice, luxurious, and new; the EJ1 wasn't a really good choice for a daily driver, the motor killed it. . I ran a 12.9 today at the track. :( Feathered first, spun moderately through second, hooked the rest of the way down. YOU SOK, DOOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Well it seems like to me you should just sell the car, yeah you lose money, but it seems like a lot of money spending on this and if you want to get back on track with school that money will have better use elsewhere. If you really wanted get the bike, i would they are a blast and long as you respect them youll be fine on what (still dangerous nonetheless) Also make sure you have researched enough before purchasing the bike(if you havent already). Hope this helps and good luck with whatever it is you decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compuvision02 Posted April 23, 2007 Author Share Posted April 23, 2007 I would take the bike training course first, before even buying or selling the Civic, just to make sure I want to. And yeah, I'd only be driving the Civic maybe 5 to 10 times a month, not a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Honda Challange isn't an option. First due to the mods it doesn't fit in any classes (except H1, where you'll be racing built B20/VTECs, built H22's, and bolt-on K20/K24's). The suspension will have to be redone, you'll need a cage, and safety equipment. R-comp tires. Events are about $300/each entry fee. You'll also have to get your comp license, which you'll need a lot of experience to get. You have to be signed off at so many events to even be able to apply for it. Those events are $300-$350/each entry fee. You also have to be ready to trash the car if you wreck it. If you damage someone elses car, you'll be expected to pay for all repairs. If you don't, be ready to be retaliated against at the next event, which will likely be you being spun off into a wall, or just having the crap banged out of your quarter panels. I'd get get something cheap that can be built into a racecar once its paid off. Like a stock Civic, or even a Fit, as a Spec Fit class is in the talks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attaus Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Ok, so you're like me. You want something fast, but not have to pay the price (comfort wise) every day. Here's what I would do; Do what you need to do to sell the car. Maximize what you can get. Sell it, then buy the bike. If you want an R6, go for it. I think that would be a good fit for a new rider who wants a nice bike. That would probably be on the upper end. Whatever you have left (I'm not sure how much you have to spend..) put it towards something like an E39 M5. I don't know what kind of car you want, but you don't want a boring sedan. A G35 is a boring sedan. Don't let anyone fool you. An M5 is a handsome beast with a 400 horse V8 that will work just fine for the day to day. You'd be the man. Too much? A 540i M-sport is just a small step down. Don't like BMW's? What about an SC300? Performance of a Supra with the interior of a Lexus. There's also the C32 AMG, C43 AMG, etc. Just let me know if you're interested in any more ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compuvision02 Posted April 23, 2007 Author Share Posted April 23, 2007 Well as I said, it probably wasn't practical, but it is another option to aim for. The drag setup wouldn't be over night either, I read some of the regulations and I know I'd have to change a bit of my stuff that I've done thus far and do a lot of things. And yeah, I know that their engines are nasty, I know one of the guys in H1 with a K24 who was getting passed on straights by a B20-VTEC. But yeah, I wouldn't really plan on doing it, I guess what I meant was build a car similar and just run some events during the year, I know the events are mad expensive, but it wouldn't be far as often as I'd do with drag. I know Chris Drabouski, so even if I wanted to get in to road racing, I'd talk to him first. Doing road race was never really an idea I had that was firm, just because I know I wouldn't make it to many events during the year, so it'd be pointless, hense why I was steering in the direction of drag, but now doing a built Honda just seems like a waste. Maybe try and find a used black G35 sedan, do tint, wheels, lower it, system, and put in my DVD player. Then get a R6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compuvision02 Posted April 23, 2007 Author Share Posted April 23, 2007 Whatever you have left (I'm not sure how much you have to spend..) put it towards something like an E39 M5. I don't know what kind of car you want, but you don't want a boring sedan. A G35 is a boring sedan. Don't let anyone fool you. An M5 is a handsome beast with a 400 horse V8 that will work just fine for the day to day. You'd be the man. Too much? A 540i M-sport is just a small step down. Don't like BMW's? What about an SC300? Performance of a Supra with the interior of a Lexus. There's also the C32 AMG, C43 AMG, etc. Well, first, it isn't a comfort thing, just the fact I won't drive the car much in the year, it doesn't seem worth the hassle and money. If I could get another Trans Am, I would, but parents said hell no to that. And those cars you mentioned are expensive as crap, I'm talking about like $18,000 tops, and I think that may be way too much, maybe more like $14,000 to $15,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90IntegraC1 Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Get a SRT-4 ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compuvision02 Posted April 23, 2007 Author Share Posted April 23, 2007 Looked, but not sure I'd want that as a daily driver like that. I want something that doesn't look like a kids car trying to go as fast as he can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycarsux Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Get a SRT-4 ha. like everyone else and their mother in west chester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 You don't have to road race. You could just keep it as is and do HPDE's. They're a hell of a lot more fun than drag racing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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