mtgphenom Posted February 1, 2007 Posted February 1, 2007 I was wondering how strong the B18B1 engine swap is in a 95 civic ex. I have been thinking about it for a while and I am really likeing that engine but wanted to see what you guys though. What can be done to it to bring out the most of its potential. And you any of you know how hard it is to leard to drive a right hand drive car?
Kegger Posted February 1, 2007 Posted February 1, 2007 Why would you want to do that swap? When your could drop an OBD-1 GSR into it with a lot less hassle. Youre gonna go from a VTEC motor to a non-VTEC motor, with only slighty more power. Do the GSR swap and get more ponies under the hood man. Plus the aftermarket is a lot better for the GSR motors than the LS motors and they have more potential.
dbtower Posted February 1, 2007 Posted February 1, 2007 i would go with what he said. i have a 96 HX with a 00 B18C1 swap and its f'n great past week: boosted 94 teggy LS, 03 SRT-4, and a 95 EX with the H22 swap. there are endless possibilties . just make sure to get a diff intake manifold. the dual butterfly crap is well, crap
CleanGSR Posted February 1, 2007 Posted February 1, 2007 Let me be the first to chime in, in favor of a B18B swap. Boosted B18B's can make crazy power just like a B18C1. There's a guy local that has a boosted B18B1 integra with 403whp and 300+wtq. B18B1 swap (for the money) is a good way to go since they're soo much cheaper than a B18C1. Plus you could always do LS-VTEC down the road if you choose. Oh, and I have a B18C1 in my car, so if anything, I'd be bias that direction.
Kegger Posted February 1, 2007 Posted February 1, 2007 Well we all know a turbo can make anything fast Hung. lol But the GSR will give him more power out of the box. That way he doesn't have to deal with the LS-VTEC build that frustrated Dan so much. And he can always go back and build it for boost just like the LS.
mtgphenom Posted February 1, 2007 Author Posted February 1, 2007 I was just wondering because I have a b18c1 engine that Im not using and wanted to do somthing with it. Also does anyone have any experience driving a right hand drive car beacuse I know a guy selling a rhd civic and wanted to know if it was difficult to drive or not.
Kegger Posted February 1, 2007 Posted February 1, 2007 The hardest part is shifting. You have to teach you left arm to work with your left leg. And is it the B1 or C1 cuz if you already have the GSR motor go ahead and drop it in.
CleanGSR Posted February 1, 2007 Posted February 1, 2007 Well we all know a turbo can make anything fast Hung. lol But the GSR will give him more power out of the box. That way he doesn't have to deal with the LS-VTEC build that frustrated Dan so much. And he can always go back and build it for boost just like the LS. Yeah, and a K24A2 will give even more power yet....but at what expense. A B18B1 is a lot cheaper with plenty of potential. If someone's on a budget a B18B1 swap is a good way to go. I'd rather have a boosted B18B1 than a bolt-on B18C1. If you have the B18B1 already then here: B18B1 - $0 Turbo Setup - $3000 (max) HP - 250whp B18C1 - $3000.00 HP - 145whp
mtgphenom Posted February 1, 2007 Author Posted February 1, 2007 would i need to do any internal work on the engine to boost 10 or 12 psi or could i do that with a stock motor.
CleanGSR Posted February 1, 2007 Posted February 1, 2007 As they guy with the boosted teg in my area says, it's not the psi you run but the horsepower that you hit that matters. He was running 14psi on his stock LS with right under 300whp and ran it that way for a long time with no problems. (he's a really good tuner from what I hear though). I'd get the turbo setup and tune it to around 250-260whp (whatever PSI it takes to get that). I'd say probably around 9-10psi depending on what turbo you choose and what supporting mods you have.
mtgphenom Posted February 1, 2007 Author Posted February 1, 2007 would i need anything else besides boost controller, turbo, intercooler, and bov? and does anyone know of a good shop in north carolina to get all this or a place online thats reliable with all these parts.
CleanGSR Posted February 1, 2007 Posted February 1, 2007 piping, downpipe, oil lines, something for tuning hondata or crome, neptune,etc..... and someone to tune it. Also you'll want to upgrade your injectors. turbo manifold... there's quite a few things you'll need. If you're unfamiliar you'd probably be better of finding a decent kit or researching turbo setups before boosting.
cranny Posted February 1, 2007 Posted February 1, 2007 theres nothing hard about an LSVTEC conversion.
pinkb18crx Posted February 3, 2007 Posted February 3, 2007 You cant beat the LS for price and power honestly. Sure gsr has 180hp but cost 3x as much as a LS motor and you can find LS motors a dime a dozen if you need parts or just end up needing another motor down the road. I have a LS and im in love with it. Plus they love boost, you can run 10-14psi with a good tune on stock internals. www.evans-tuning.com goto the forums and read up, he made 300whp on a stock LS with 8lbs of boost!!
Ben. Posted February 3, 2007 Posted February 3, 2007 LS swaps are cool. Like Pink said, they might be a little weaker, but they don't stay that way for long. A number of people on Honda-Tech are making over 300 at the wheels on factory internals with injectors and whatnot with a good tune. It'll last you a while as long as you don't beat on it EVERYWHERE you go.
mtgphenom Posted February 9, 2007 Author Posted February 9, 2007 does anyone have a link to a thread that has somone boosting a b18bi on stock internals getting 300 hp becuase I have been looking though all the different forums and cant find anything.
CleanGSR Posted February 9, 2007 Posted February 9, 2007 No but member adseguy on honda-tech was hitting more than 300whp on stock internals B18B in his teg before he built it. Don't quote me on that, but I'm pretty sure he was hitting right around that hp. He's now pushing 400+whp and over 300wtq. You could check over there and ask him if you need help. Edit: Found a link to his old setup. Clicky Pow All stock internals 303whp 260wtq on 16psi
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