Kegger Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 Lately I've been noticing that gas prices have been going back up but E-85 prices are staying the same, at least here. So I was wondering if it is possible to run it in a normal car. Anybody knowif it's been done or if its even possible?
cranny Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 our hondas are designed to run E85. they can run it right out of the box. now before you go pump it in your tank , my 01 civic can run it. just check your owners manual , if you have an older car , than you prolly should find out first. but im you can run it in anything that runs regular pump gas.
Kegger Posted January 31, 2007 Author Posted January 31, 2007 Well I've got a D16Z6 so I was just hoping I can run it in there cuz its SOOO much cheaper than gas.
Pyrorocketeer Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 no, other way around.... 85% gas and 15% ethanol. 85% ethanol would require much larger injectors. 100% you need to double the flow from that of gasoline.
Pyrorocketeer Posted February 1, 2007 Posted February 1, 2007 see the problem is, that it would take double your fuel consumption if you ran 100%. so in all reality you'd be paying more, cause you'd be gettin half the fuel mileage. granted your running 15%, but still your loosing some. now, when you run e-85, how does honda distinguish the difference? wouldn't it be running lean all the time like any other normal car that runs off of it? how does it know when to inject more fuel to not run lean?
Kegger Posted February 1, 2007 Author Posted February 1, 2007 No Mycarsux is right, It is 85% ethanol, because in MN the gas is already 15% ethanol. And I haven't experienced any degradation in fuel economy since I moved here, in fact it increased.
CleanGSR Posted February 1, 2007 Posted February 1, 2007 Yeah, it's 85% Ethanol. That's why a car has to be E85 compliant to run the stuff. I couldn't run E85 in my teg without doing damage. Casey's General Stores in my area have been using a 10% Ethanol Mix in their 89 Octane for 10 years or more. E85 actually won't save you much if any money...might even cost you more. Yeah, it's cheaper to get, but you'll get less gas mileage with it, so it pretty much evens out. Cost savings isn't the reason that everybody is swithching or looking at E85. E85 is happening because it's an alternative fuel source to fossil fuels and is better for the environment. I predict, that by the time that E85 becomes widespreadly used (next few years)....and by widespread, I mean used about as much as regular fuel, that we won't be using either. Electric Cars are our future IMO with hydrogen cells also a possibility. Tesla Roadster is the first to come to mind. Fully electric, Crazy good performance, and 250 miles per charge.....1 cent per mile equivalent. Now all they need to do is get a self recharging system like solar panels integrated into the top panels of the car to store energy,...... or how about a setup on each wheels that recharges in the same fashion that old water wheels and windmills create energy. Ramble Over.
coolcat467 Posted February 1, 2007 Posted February 1, 2007 Sorry to get off topic. But would you get better gas mileage with pure gas or the E-10 stuff?
CleanGSR Posted February 1, 2007 Posted February 1, 2007 I would guess that with regular 89 would give better gas mileage than E10 89.
coolcat467 Posted February 1, 2007 Posted February 1, 2007 Yeah after reading the above discussion, I got to thinking about that. Experiment time!
Kegger Posted February 1, 2007 Author Posted February 1, 2007 Damn.. I was hoping I could run it and save a lil money cuz I really don't drive all that often anymore.
CleanGSR Posted February 1, 2007 Posted February 1, 2007 Run it for the same reason I still have a catalytic converter on my car. Our environment needs all the help we can give it.
cranny Posted February 1, 2007 Posted February 1, 2007 our hondas are designed to run E85 sorry my bad , i meant E10. was thinking it the other way around , hondas out of the box can run up to 15%. at least thats what mine can run. now, when you run e-85, how does honda distinguish the difference? wouldn't it be running lean all the time like any other normal car that runs off of it? how does it know when to inject more fuel to not run lean? sensors and an ecu , with the equations incorporated into its eeprom i assume.
Xeryon Posted February 1, 2007 Posted February 1, 2007 The newer GM flex vehicles can run both, but most cars can not. The ecu has to be programmed correctly to compensate for the increased consumption of the e85. But otherwise cranny is dead on, there really isn't any different between gas and e85 as far as engine parts go. Supposedly they are working on a plug in module that will allow anyone to fill up their normal vehicle with e85 with the flip of a switch.
mycarsux Posted February 1, 2007 Posted February 1, 2007 No Mycarsux is right, It is 85% ethanol, because in MN the gas is already 15% ethanol. And I haven't experienced any degradation in fuel economy since I moved here, in fact it increased. Oh ok... Thanks for misleading me, Pyro :nono: EDIT: Let me add to this discussion. I hope you guys know that the only reason ethanol is somewhat big now is because of the "alternative fuel" rage these days. They're just trying to find something else that we can run our cars off of. For environmental reasons and to get us off of our dependency for gasoline.
CleanGSR Posted February 1, 2007 Posted February 1, 2007 ^^ that's exactly what I said a few posts up.
Pyrorocketeer Posted February 1, 2007 Posted February 1, 2007 i thought it was the stuff cranny was talking about. sorry.
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