DTC.Monster Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 So.. I have a B16A2 BLock........... Starting to build it.. And I wanted to Build this motor to be an all motor beast.. Well These Were My Ideas... If I Resleeve it and increase the bore to About 84 mm. Not too Big.. And Stroke the Motor to about 87mm. to Increase the Displacement... I Therefore turn the 1.6L To about a little over a 1.9L.. Also with PCT Pistons for the High Compression.. Because I want an all motor car, looking as a stock B16, Would this be too much strain on the motor.. Chances are I will do it anyway, but I want to kno wht I should be prepared for.. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranny Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 always knew you smoked crack. finally , confirmation , lol. So.. I have a B16A2 BLock........... Starting to build it.. And I wanted to Build this motor to be an all motor beast..Well These Were My Ideas... If I Resleeve it and increase the bore to About 84 mm. Not too Big.. And Stroke the Motor to about 87mm. to Increase the Displacement... I Therefore turn the 1.6L To about a little over a 1.9L.. Also with PCT Pistons for the High Compression.. Because I want an all motor car, looking as a stock B16, Would this be too much strain on the motor.. Chances are I will do it anyway, but I want to kno wht I should be prepared for.. Thanks. get yourself some B16B(PCT) pistons. get yourself a GSR crank , order custom rods for proper piston to deck(calculator says 128.35mm rods). this will give you 12.1:1 compression ratio even. that matched with built head and cams would be a fun engine. technically , this would be a stroker. but stock bore. now that very same setup , only the block sleeved for an 84mm bore , would give you 12.8:1 , instead of 12.1:1. so you see , boring them out doesnt have as much effect. but i always say , boring them out is not as hard on the engine as stroking them further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not ..SSR... Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 just like all of yours the past few minutes.... dumbass hey, no name calling please. I'm not on this forum to argue. I just want to help people with all their questions about Hondas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTC.Monster Posted December 28, 2006 Author Share Posted December 28, 2006 always knew you smoked crack. finally , confirmation , lol. get yourself some B16B(PCT) pistons. get yourself a GSR crank , order custom rods for proper piston to deck(calculator says 128.35mm rods). this will give you 12.1:1 compression ratio even. that matched with built head and cams would be a fun engine. technically , this would be a stroker. but stock bore. now that very same setup , only the block sleeved for an 84mm bore , would give you 12.8:1 , instead of 12.1:1. so you see , boring them out doesnt have as much effect. but i always say , boring them out is not as hard on the engine as stroking them further. Thank you for the one person to help me.. Other than that.. LMAO at this dude smokin crack.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 f*ck you ..SSR... Can't put OEM non B20 pistons in an 84mm bore. Might as well get a B20 block. Cheaper than resleeving, then you can use the 89mm crank without killing your powerband and longevity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranny Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 i was thinking same thing after your response , lol. fuk the B20 block , stay stock bore and stroke that bitch for all motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 You don't want a big crank in a B16 block. Might make good power, but it won't last long. At all. Most of the tech43 builds last under 10k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrorocketeer Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 um....why wouldn't it last? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranny Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 cause he said so pyro , havent you learned yet? cmon man get with the program , lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrorocketeer Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 SSR people stroke engines everyday, they last longer than 10k..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Stroked B16's don't. Piston design and how short the rods are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrorocketeer Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 holy damn! change the pistons and get longer rods! BAM! your such a douche..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 Can't do that in a B16 block. Know what you're talking about before you try to discredit me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrorocketeer Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 lol i couldn't really care less about honda engines personally... y can't you do it again? And how does stroking on this particular engine effect pistons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 Because the block is shorter than B18 blocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrorocketeer Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 you mean cylinder is shorter, not the block. what does this have to do with pison design like you said in your earlier post?..... nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 No. The block is shorter. Pin location and skirt design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrorocketeer Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 what are you talking about shorter? like it can't handle the length of stroke? and get different pistons...... EDIT : or even better yet, actually get a decent motor that you can modify, make good power, and actually have it last..... how long will 350+ hp last in a honda.... not nearly as long as 350hp + in a V8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 Ok. Its time for you to hop out of this thread. 1. The block is shorter. You do know the definition of shorter right? 2. The tech43 stroker kit for the B16 (or piece together your own kit for a few more hundred). It uses an 89mm crank, short ass rods, and craptastical pistons (high pin, almost skirtless). Now take the R/S (not R/S ratio) along with the piston design and you have yourself a 10k engine that peaks at a lower RPM than an LS/VTEC and isn't really good for much. EDIT: Notice I told him to go with a B20 block? 350whp Hondas have been driving around daily for years now. Hop onto H-T and you'll see quite a few 350whp builds that have been driven every day since the late 90's. Pretty good considering 500whp on a built pump gas engine was hard to come by at the start of the century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrorocketeer Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 350whp Hondas have been driving around daily for years now. Hop onto H-T and you'll see quite a few 350whp builds that have been driven every day since the late 90's. LOL guess what there have been many cars running 350 stock hp for quite a few years now too! I could really care less what potential honda's have, cause they will never be as reliable as its equal v8. I don't want to argue with some honduh teen about numbers, I came here to learn a little more about boosting, but half the toolbags on here don't know crap. you included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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