cranny Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 POS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranny Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 exactly my point. how else would they reach , lol. ive read and heard about piston rod stretch , but never came across it personally. im sure its as rare in street cars as the boogyman , lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted November 22, 2006 Author Share Posted November 22, 2006 I already said thats not and, I also replied to cranny saying rod stretch relates to P-H clearance. OEM rods stretch at high RPM, which is why you want .040 P-H in road racing engines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch92 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 making contact with the head? still who cares...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrorocketeer Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 ok then how does the piston to head clearance automagically (lol i love that word) change? the vaccum from the tb being slammed shut, pulls the head in closer to the piston, but the piston is moving so fast, that BAM! it hits, before the head has time to rubberband back upward. or under high rpm's the wrist pins bend a little from the massive inertia of those lead weighted pistons? or the arp studs don't retain their springyness any longer, and stretch out, and don't go back? Or do you stretch out the crank?! (so thats how they make stroker cranks! I finally understand!) oh, and the technical term for p-h clearance, is deck height..... y don't you just tell us, cause this is really dumb.....Just tell us, so we can all dissagree, and move on with our lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90IntegraC1 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 this is like a week long game. what is it you're getting at Chris? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch92 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 he's gonna prove he "knows" more then all of us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranny Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 which is why you want .040 P-H in road racing engines. dude , your full of crap , .040 is wayy too much piston to deck in a B series engine dude. remember there mr "quench". D16Z6 runs .000 stock. B16A - .022 B16B - .026 B18C1 - .034 B18C5 - .026 so wtf are you talking about???? answer the fukin question and get on with it. he's gonna prove he "knows" more then all of us... he knows fuk all more than me. that i assure you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcat467 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 I take it SSR isn't liked around here anymore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch92 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 he knows fuk all more than me. that i assure you. are you serious ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranny Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 no im joking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted November 23, 2006 Author Share Posted November 23, 2006 Honda heads don't flex under vacuum. RLZ did a test on this. Road race engines need .040 P-H. Don Flores who has built a few SCCA winning engines can verify this. Get away from the piston end and look at the big end like I said before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch92 Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 this topic is just gettin realy old now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranny Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 i just dont get what your saying SSR , you come here telling us one thing about piston to deck a while ago , telling everyone im an idiot and im wrong , than you come in and now all the sudden its .040?? whatever dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrorocketeer Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 Honda heads don't flex under vacuum. RLZ did a test on this. Road race engines need .040 P-H. Don Flores who has built a few SCCA winning engines can verify this. Get away from the piston end and look at the big end like I said before. LOL some dumbass actually did a test on that?! wow..... thats all i can say to that one. your not gonna sit here and tell me that its the crank flexing either..... this isn't a rotary dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranny Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 rotary is FTL. Honda heads don't flex under vacuum. RLZ did a test on this. Road race engines need .040 P-H. Don Flores who has built a few SCCA winning engines can verify this. Get away from the piston end and look at the big end like I said before. you dont need a test to figure this out SSR , do you think honda would design interference engines with a piston to deck height of .000 if they thought anything was gonna flex or stretch? NOOOO. so .040 PtD. and the engine would be firing depending on whats done to it , approx. 15-17 degrees BTC(approx i said) , that means the piston would be even farther than .040 when the the plug fired(im not doing the math cause it aint worth it). and your the guy that was in here talking about quench to me over B16B's build. anyways , i know your talking about piston rod stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted November 23, 2006 Author Share Posted November 23, 2006 Then quit reading it 92hatch. Doesn't have to do with the crank flexing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrorocketeer Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 ok then ssr, there isn't anything else it could be. it isn't the crank, it isn't the bolts, it isn't the rods themselves, it isn't the wristpins, it isn't the pistons, and it certainly isn't the head. there isn't anything else in the rotating assembly that can "move". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90IntegraC1 Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 maybe the pistons bounce around and dent the cylinder walls....or maybe a rod mysteriously lets go of the piston and shoots out the head and through the valve cover....or maybe, just maybe, your car looses power because of the heat causing the heavy pistons to expand and cause friction with the cylinder wall.... LOL i dunno...this is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick B. Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 i think this entire thread is just to piss people off. ssr, look, what are you getting at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted November 24, 2006 Author Share Posted November 24, 2006 Its not rod stretch for the last time. BIG END. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90IntegraC1 Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 Rod Bolt weakening occurs? upgrade to stronger bolts? i dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH6TunerDaniel Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 Spun bearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 It equals an engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted November 24, 2006 Author Share Posted November 24, 2006 Spun bearing. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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