darksaint Posted January 8, 2003 Author Share Posted January 8, 2003 Thanks, that's exactly what I wanted to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optional187 Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 damn, we have some suspension experts on here! and yeah, all that info is very very helpful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 Spoons adjustable coilovers don't come with springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBEX Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 I have AR Bobet 15s on Firehawks right now, and want to increase the wheel profile and lower the ride height. 17" inches is 2" greater than 15", So wouldn't I have to lower the car at least 2 inches total? Let's say I buy a set of Eibach Coilovers and a set of 17 Konig Tantrums with 205/45/R17 nitto tires. If I want to set the car at .5" below stock, then I set the COs at -1.5"?? Doesn't seem like enough. With my current setup: stock springs, AR Bobet 15"s shod in Firehawk 195/60/R15s(from a different car, they looked cool believe me.) The tire has nearly a 5 inch profile on 15" rims. so we Add 'em up and get a total wheel height of 20". With the new setup, the tire has just a 4" profile, but the wheel is 17" in diameter. So we add'em up and we get a whopping 22" total wheel height. The stock rims on the Civic are 15s, and the wheel profile is the same as my current setup, so I'm at stock height now. So actually, if I wanted to get the -.5" ride I'd have to lower the springs by nearly 2.5 inches. Right? BTW, I'm rounding all the numbers up to avoid stuff like 8.07087". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBEX Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 Okay, my math was bad there. 17+4 is not 22. IT's 21. That said a 1.5" drop would lower the car .5" below stock ride height. I was high, Okay!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optional187 Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 yeah jb, your right. i didn't take the tire's sidewall height into the equation. my bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 My friend and I pur new Eibach springs on his Rabbit. That thing handles better than a Prowler now. IF you are on a budget, go with them, great quality at a good price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optional187 Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 a rabbit? lmao i have a friend with a old volvo 740 (i think its a 740). we call it the vulva instead of volvo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddySol Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 I always thought "coilover" just meant a shock inside a spring. That's it. Anyhow, eibachs with KYB AGX is a good spring/shock combo. I'd prolly go with this setup if I was on a tight budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 No, a coilover is is strut with a spring on it. Shocks don't have springs at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddySol Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 what? the shock body within the space inside of a spring. that's all a coilover is right? If it were a "strut" wouldn't they be called "coilover strut systems?" shock, strut...same thing basically they dampen, the only difference is how they are used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..SSR.. Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 The difference is how they are built. Struts have a spring, shocks have fluid or gas instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRX Driver03 Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 Well you know I am all about the TEIN, like I said from the begining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddySol Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 The difference is how they are built. Struts have a spring, shocks have fluid or gas instead. are you serious? (i have a feeling this is going to go nowhere...) i was taught that there was no real difference in a shock or a strut, just in how they are used. shocks are used to dampen the spring only, while struts are used to dampen as well as being a part of the suspension system. which is why you can still drive a car if you lose your shocks and most likely lose all driveability when losing a strut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImportGirl82 Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 is there any way to loweer them with what you got with the car when orginally bbought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksaint Posted January 23, 2003 Author Share Posted January 23, 2003 Yes, you can cut the springs, but this isn't recommended since the road will feel a LOT bumpier since you have less dampening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImportGirl82 Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 I was wathcing a hot rodding show and it showed how to lower a civic. they mention cutting but it wasnt reccommendedd. I beleive the one i wanted i saw in www.jcwwhitney.com they were of course purple!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLontheDL Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 i dont trust many springs but i do trust eibach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedTegra Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 shocks and struts do the same thing just have different ways of being steup...however though seperate form the shock/strut, they are inside of a spring there are two types of coilovers, cheap and expensive....there are good cheap ones but the difference is if it is around $300 (like ground control)it is a spring that is adjustable because it sits on a threaded sleeve. expensive coilovers cost about $1000 (like teins) and is a shock/strut that is threaded and the spring sits on that...the expensive ones are a spring and shock/strut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedTegra Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 oh yea and both me and my friend have integras...not sure if its a new york problem but it is very likely the bolt holding ur strut pack in will seize up. if u do it urself u will most likely have to cut it out.....meaning new control arms...depending on the shop u take it to i dunno if they could get it out or if they will just come and say "now u need new rear control arms" but good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksaint Posted March 20, 2003 Author Share Posted March 20, 2003 I went ahead and ordered some Tein S-Tech Springs, however, I am worried about the fact that my front drop is going to be massive (2.6 inches said on the website). Am I going to need a camber kit for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optional187 Posted March 20, 2003 Share Posted March 20, 2003 how much did you pay for them? and on that note, where did you order them from? i can't find a single site online that has them for sell, and the nearest dealer is about 2.5-3 hours away from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksaint Posted March 20, 2003 Author Share Posted March 20, 2003 http://www.inlinefour.com/ is where I bought em, $200 total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optional187 Posted March 20, 2003 Share Posted March 20, 2003 so, do you plan to install them yourself, or are you going to take it somewhere and have them put on? if you plan to put them on yourself do you think you could make a "How-to" for us? cause in a matter of weeks i'll probably be ordering myself a set aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksaint Posted March 20, 2003 Author Share Posted March 20, 2003 Sure, in fact, I will be using a How-To guide to assist me (even though the only guides I have found thus far were focused on 96-00 EX Civics and 99+ Si's, but they can't be that much different). I will take some pictures while I am at it. I recommend the How-To on http://www.jdmfan.com/ (it specifies Eibachs, but a spring is a spring when it comes to installing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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