SeanyC Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 I have a few old hondas that i work on but i have never tried doing body work. I have a project car that I am ready to toy with and it has wheel well rust. Should I use fiberglass or bondo to patch it up? What sort of tools would I need to buy to do a good job? please discus.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastigir Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 Cutting it out and welding in sheet metal would be best, but you didn't ask that. Fiberglass is harder to work with, but more durable. Bondo is cheap and easy. Your decision really. I prefer working with fiberglass simply for the durability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanyC Posted July 11, 2008 Author Share Posted July 11, 2008 Cutting it out and welding in sheet metal would be best, but you didn't ask that. Fiberglass is harder to work with, but more durable. Bondo is cheap and easy. Your decision really. I prefer working with fiberglass simply for the durability. Ok, so if i went with glass what tools would i need? I have no torch so no metal cutting for me just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrIaN EG2 Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 you should be able to rent a torch from autozone, at least you can do that at the autozone at my house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpearce1974 Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 Any pics of said rust? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanyC Posted July 11, 2008 Author Share Posted July 11, 2008 Any pics of said rust? I will post a couple images after work today but its the typical honda wheel rot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpearce1974 Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 I will post a couple images after work today but its the typical honda wheel rot. I want to know how extensive the rust is! Cut and weld is the only true fix, for rust, bondo is a band-aid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elusiveshame Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 I want to know how extensive the rust is! Cut and weld is the only true fix, for rust, bondo is a band-aid! Exactly, and bondo only covers it up, not cures it. Bondo will eventually crack/fall out, and the rust will come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrIaN EG2 Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 Exactly, and bondo only covers it up, not cures it. Bondo will eventually crack/fall out, and the rust will come back. the rust will not come back if you cut past the rust like rob said earlier... if you cut past the rust it stops the rusting... thats why you cut out a portion and get the same portion from a different honda, weld it in, smothen out the welds, bondo over the whole spot to smoothen out all the blemishes, primer, and paint over... job done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanyC Posted July 11, 2008 Author Share Posted July 11, 2008 the rust will not come back if you cut past the rust like rob said earlier... if you cut past the rust it stops the rusting... thats why you cut out a portion and get the same portion from a different honda, weld it in, smothen out the welds, bondo over the whole spot to smoothen out all the blemishes, primer, and paint over... job done Ok, i have a few rusty cars in my fleet but here are pics of the civic in question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kegger Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 Bondo isn't gonna help you in this case. You need to cut and weld. That's the only true fix, and as extensive as that rust is, it's really your only option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanyC Posted July 11, 2008 Author Share Posted July 11, 2008 Bondo isn't gonna help you in this case. You need to cut and weld. That's the only true fix, and as extensive as that rust is, it's really your only option. Well i will wait to see what a gew others think. i gotta be able to mud it up and get a cheap fix. im not gonna keep the car for ever, just a project that i plan to eventually sell. worse case if i weld what type of weder do i need? mig, tig? arc? welding is also brand new for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastigir Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 Well i will wait to see what a gew others think. i gotta be able to mud it up and get a cheap fix. im not gonna keep the car for ever, just a project that i plan to eventually sell. worse case if i weld what type of weder do i need? mig, tig? arc? welding is also brand need for me. Kegger is right. Had I known the rust was this extensive beforehand, I wouldn't have replied with anything but cutting and welding. A MIG or TIG should work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpearce1974 Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 Holy shiot! Please don't do that to some unsuspecting soul! It has happened to me, and I would never knowingly do it to anyone else! :nono: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airjordan223 Posted July 12, 2008 Share Posted July 12, 2008 yeah that rust is way past bondo or fiberglass. youre going to need to cut and weld for that. you should also check out underneath the car and other areas because its probably rusting as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanyC Posted July 12, 2008 Author Share Posted July 12, 2008 LOL, honestly it does have one small hole under the drivers seat. Im just planning to use a small piece of sheet metal with a few rivets and some serious caulk to fix that though. I just rebuilt the engine and it runs good, just wanna slap some body work on it and flip it. I think i will try bondo as its the most cost effective method for now. What type a stuff should i buy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airjordan223 Posted July 12, 2008 Share Posted July 12, 2008 bondo will not fix that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanyC Posted July 12, 2008 Author Share Posted July 12, 2008 bondo will not fix that A friend was telling me i could simply stuff some newspaper in that hole and then mud the hell outta it with some bondo. I will try it and see what happens,,,nothing to loose here...its a project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpearce1974 Posted July 12, 2008 Share Posted July 12, 2008 Holy shiot! Please don't do that to some unsuspecting soul! It has happened to me, and I would never knowingly do it to anyone else! :nono: Again I say look up!^^^ >_< A friend was telling me i could simply stuff some newspaper in that hole and then mud the hell outta it with some bondo. I will try it and see what happens,,,nothing to loose here...its a project With friends like that, who needs enemies!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elusiveshame Posted July 12, 2008 Share Posted July 12, 2008 Using bondo on that kind of mess is 1) a waste of your time and effort and 2) a waste of your money. Do it the right way or don't do it at all is my motto. Your car, your choice, but don't say we didn't warn you - and if you sell it to someone and don't let them know, that's just shady and will get you a bad name quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpearce1974 Posted July 12, 2008 Share Posted July 12, 2008 Using bondo on that kind of mess is 1) a waste of your time and effort and 2) a waste of your money. Do it the right way or don't do it at all is my motto. Your car, your choice, but don't say we didn't warn you - and if you sell it to someone and don't let them know, that's just shady and will get you a bad name quick. +1,000,000,000,000,000,000..............!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sport Injection Posted July 12, 2008 Share Posted July 12, 2008 Have some pride in your work. There are right ways and wrong ways. For the sake of whoever buys it, either do it right or don't do it. If you cant afford it just save up until you can, don't half ass stuff. Just IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lceah Posted July 12, 2008 Share Posted July 12, 2008 What sort of tools would I need to buy to do a good job? then you meant to say "quick and dirty job?" I agree with the others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpearce1974 Posted July 12, 2008 Share Posted July 12, 2008 I think some one needs to change the name of this post to: How do I cover up rust, so I can screw over some unsuspecting person? Or something like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lceah Posted July 12, 2008 Share Posted July 12, 2008 ^lol that's what I said hehehehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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