8crx8 Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 dahm i got beat by a tacoma on an up hill !!! whats wrong with my zc .??? i got the intake and integra ecu why did i get beat?? ... is this normal ?? i mean i know zc is not the fastest motor and its only rated 135hp or less.. what do i need to beat this trucks ??..without adding turbo and just motor, i just wanna go N/A and be quick, i cant even hear my tires squeel ...pls help me squeezz the full potential of this engine.dham those toyotas.....nissans....!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranny Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 its called cubic inches my friend and theres no substitution in most cases. just turbo it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 The only replacement for displacement is VTEC or Turbo. Displacement is overrated. << 1.6L making 400+ hp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 dont mean to sound like a weiner but with just an intake ur not gonna beat much even if ur an awesome driver. well you could be it would be difficult. and like solLes said to get major power gain at one time, gonna need a turbo. just my opinion, but feel free to build up the motor itll just take time and plenty of green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 The thing is, trucks are full of torque. Hp doesn't win a race, torque does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranny Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 even boost with VTEC is no match for cubic inches soles im sorry but your wrong. this is by no means import vs. domestic but hear me out cause im an import lover too but the facts are the facts. the most power you can get out of the best honda 4cyl platform might be 1000 but i doubt it. but im in a good mood so ill give ya 2000 , hows that. so you got your 500,000$ honda engine with 2000 horse , lol. stay with me here. now the guys runnin top fuel dragsters are gettin 6000 horse out of big block boosted fire breathing dragons. see what im gettin at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Ok, we are talking street cars. And once again, you veer off topic. Dude, you are taking things way out of context. Nobody is talking about 6000 hp. It is all about the money looking to be spent, and there are always things that can be done to raise hp and torque. He just needs to start somewhere. I will say it again and again. Displacement is overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranny Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 no its not at all ,you said and i quote that boost and vtec are substitutes for cubic inches dude , and your wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanGSR Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 I agree with SolLes. A built 3.0 liter TT Supra can easily hit 800-1000whp as a daily driver and will rape a built daily driver built mustang cobra. And before you correct me about the supra being a 6cyl, we're talking displacement not cyl. Not trying to argue here, just agreeing with SolLesHonda that boost is a great alternative for Cubic Inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranny Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 he never said alternative he said replacement pay attention. and i know you can get 1000 ponys out of a supra who doesnt(can get more actually). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanGSR Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Okay. I think you are meaning it literally where he means it figuretively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdelsol Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 now the guys runnin top fuel dragsters are gettin 6000 horse out of big block boosted fire breathing dragons. see what im gettin at? I though you were against boost as a replacement, and yet you clearly state boosted in the quote above. in order to "proove" your point you're gonna have to list a decent n/a setup. and that is not a daily driver. dragster? I think were focusing on street driven here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBirdSucks Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 even boost with VTEC is no match for cubic inches soles im sorry but your wrong. a turbo B16 civic will dominate a stock or lightly modded 4.6L or 5.0L mustang...yet, the mustang has more displacement. take a stock neon and a stock school bus. the neon will beat the school bus, yet the bus has more displacement and a turbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VR17 Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 dude... a truck won cuz it had torque, beside the point it was up a hill, you lost probaly because you were in 5th or 4th gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90IntegraC1 Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Hp doesn't win a race, torque does. that's a great quote, but unfortunately that makes hondas look bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdelsol Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 and it's not entirely true. what if I have 2 hp and 350 ft-lbs of torque?indy cars only have like 60 ft-lbs. ( maybe it was formula 1, can't remember) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8crx8 Posted February 18, 2006 Author Share Posted February 18, 2006 thanx for takin time to hep me out even though u guys were talkin about diffrent stuff .. well anywayz ...you think i can put some camshafts to get more tourqe...???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 I wouldn't bother buying cams right now, as a matter of fact, why are you even racing trucks .. maybe you shouldn't be driving :( Anyway, cranny, the reason I said that, is because that is a popular Domestic saying : "There is no replacement for displacement." I made it into my own. Quit taking everything literally. You are trying to act like a know-it-all, and you sound like an ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90IntegraC1 Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Anyway, cranny, the reason I said that, is because that is a popular Domestic saying : "There is no replacement for displacement." I made it into my own. Quit taking everything literally. You are trying to act like a know-it-all, and you sound like an ass. +5, i've noticed that too. Cranny, you have proven to be far less superior in you knowledge of the Honda. Please stop before you make a complete ass of yourself. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdelsol Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 +1 aint start none, wont be none Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphries Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 i dont like reading things he posts in. always an argument about something WAY off topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 I hate when you double post like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIred91 Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 sorry guys i hate to off topic, but i cant get anyone else, do you know anyone who has ordered an e-gay header for a rex? i keep seeing these headers for 20 dollars and under plus shipping, is it worth it? anyone with exp on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolLesHonda Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 No, they suck. You'll get a CEL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90IntegraC1 Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 why would you buy $20 headers? its likely that you will need to do major modification to make it fit because they're so cheap and probably poorly made. Just save up $150 and buy dc-sports headers, you'll be much happier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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